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OpenStudy (anonymous):

anyone here good at adding radical expressions?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

give a problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[9\sqrt{2x^3}+3\sqrt{18x}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh! the 3 is 3x sorry ^^:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok: so what you need to add radicals is the same thing under both. so starting with: \[3x \sqrt{18x}\] 18 can be broken into 9 * 2 and you can take the 9 out of the square root so it becomes: \[3*3\sqrt{2x} = 9\sqrt{2x}\] next on the left: \[x ^{3} = x ^{2}* x\] so the x^2 can be taken out and put on outside leaving this. \[9x \sqrt{2x}+9x \sqrt{2x} = 18x \sqrt{2x}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why do you take the 9 out of square root and make it look that way? sorry for the dumb question, i have issues grasping things.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well 18 is factored by 9*2, 9 is a perfect square. meaning the square root of 9 is an integer. 3*3 = 9 and the square root of 9 is 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in order to add 2 square roots together the term under the radical needs to be identical

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the goal is to make the ones in square roots to be identical then solve?

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

when adding up terms in an expression, you can only collect together those terms that have the same type of variable. to take a simple example, lets say you had: 2x+4y+x-3y here you can collect the "2x" and "x" to make "3x" and you can collect the "4y" and "-3y" to make "y" resulting in: 3x+y the same principal holds if you have terms that contains powers, e.g. in:\[2x^2+4x+x^2-3x\]you can collect together the terms involving "x^2" and separately the terms involving "x" to get:\[3x^2+x\] do you understand so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

ok, now the power terms can be any power - including square roots, so:\[2\sqrt{x}+4x+\sqrt{x}-3x=3\sqrt{x}+x\]

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

the next thing you need to understand is how to simplify a term

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

you need to know the following rules:\[a^n.a^m=a^{n+m}\]\[(a^n)^m=a^{nm}\]\[(ab)^n=a^n.b^n\] are you familiar with these rules?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think ive seen em before, but I still dont understand them that well

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

ok, lets take some simple examples

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

\[2^3=2*2*2\]\[2^2=2*2\]so\[(2^3)*(2^2)=(2*2*2)*(2*2)=2*2*2*2*2=2^5\]this shows the rule:\[a^n.a^m=a^{n+m}\]understand?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think so

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

what are you not sure of?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you help me solve a problem step by step?

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

sure, but you need to understand these basic things first

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[2\sqrt{27}-2\sqrt{18}+\sqrt{75}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

try and explain with this problem, please? :) If you dont mind of course.

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

ok - lets try :-)

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

remember one of the rules above:\[(ab)^n=a^n*b^n\]this applies to ANY power, so square roots for example are just power 1/2:\[(ab)^{1/2}=a^{1/2}*b^{1/2}\]in other words:\[\sqrt{ab}=\sqrt{a}*\sqrt{b}\]we can use this here:\[2\sqrt{27}=2\sqrt{9*3}=2\sqrt{9}*\sqrt{3}=2*3*\sqrt{3}=6\sqrt{3}\] do you see how that was achieved?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

ok, now try and do the next term yourself - how can you simplify:\[2\sqrt{18}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2*6\[\sqrt{3}\]

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

no quite - try using the same steps that I used - try again please

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok jus a sec..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[2*2\sqrt{3} \] ? do i take the second three out?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh wait is it like 3*3*2, and you couple the threes and bring out a 3??

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it would be \[2*3\sqrt{2}\] ?

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

perfect!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:D really? yay!!

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

so basically what you need to do is look at each square root and see if you can split the number which is inside the square root into a product of two numbers, one of which is a square number. so the one you did would go something like this:\[2\sqrt{18}=2\sqrt{9*2}=2\sqrt{9}\sqrt{2}=2*3\sqrt{2}=6\sqrt{2}\]

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

now try the same on the remaining term

OpenStudy (anonymous):

5*5*3? Does that look right?

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

yes 75=5*5*3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but the middle term doesnt share the same number in square root as the first and last? What do i do with it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[its a \sqrt{2} and the others are \sqrt{3}\]

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

thats fine, it just means that these terms cannot be "collected" together, e.g.:\[3\sqrt{2}+4\sqrt{3}+5\sqrt{2}=8\sqrt{2}+4\sqrt{3}\]no more simplification is possible here

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it will just be part of final answer?

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[2*3\sqrt{3}-2*3\sqrt{2}+5\sqrt{3} \] How do we solve the rest?

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

your result can be simplified further as follows:\[2*3\sqrt{3}-2*3\sqrt{2}+5\sqrt{3}=6\sqrt{3}-6\sqrt{2}+5\sqrt{3}=11\sqrt{3}-6\sqrt{2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I see it, thanks! :D

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

by the way - you should not use the term "solve" here. what you are doing here is simplifying a radical expression. "solve" is used when you have some unknown quantities and are asked to find their values, e.g. solve:\[2x=6\]"solution" would be:\[x=3\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, but why is there only one squared 3?

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

what do you mean?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sqrt{3}\] there is only one

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

what were you expecting?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh and where did the six come from?

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

in this term:\[2*3\sqrt{3}\]you can replace "2*3" with "6" to get:\[6\sqrt{3}\]imagine instead you saw:\[2*3x\]this is just the same as:\[6x\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know, i got that :) i just mean the 11 and six in final answer

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

\[2*3\sqrt{3}-2*3\sqrt{2}+5\sqrt{3}\]\[=6\sqrt{3}-6\sqrt{2}+5\sqrt{3}\]\[=11\sqrt{3}-6\sqrt{2}\]I just collected the terms involving square root of 3. similar example would be:\[6x-6y+5x=11x-6y\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

where did the five go?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh! nevermind duh! i see it, sorry ^^;

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

finally! :-) I'm glad you now understand how to do these types of problems.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:) Thanks so so much!

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