Someone help me with the 2 problems I posted yesterday and didn't get answers to... (they're on my profile)
Ykz can you help or no?
I get the idea of plugging in one for the other but the problems look weird because they are fractional.
phi can u help?
\[f \circ g= f(g(x))\]\[g(x)= \frac{-1-5x}{5x}\]\[f(x)=\frac{-1}{5x+5}\]
so far so good
get on the chat thing Foster
The easiest way to do this is concentrate on just the denominator 5x+5 in f(x) replace the x with g(x): \[5\cdot \frac{-1-5x}{5x}+5 \] simplify by canceling the 5's. Also, the make a common denominator for the second 5: \[\frac{-1-5x}{x}+\frac{5}{1}\cdot \frac{x}{x}= \frac{-1-5x+5x}{x}= \frac{-1}{x}\]
Now we have the denominator of f(g(x)) simplified to -1/x. So the total expression is \[\frac{-1}{\frac{-1}{x}}= -1\cdot \frac{x}{-1}=x\]
im confused
shouldnt f(g(x)) = f(-1 / 5(-1-5x/5x)+5)
when u plug in one for the other
what f(g(x)) means is look at the f function, and everywhere you see x, replace it with g(x) so, without expanding it, we would get: \[f(g(x))= \frac{-1}{5g(x)+5}\] of course g(x) is a messy fraction, but you get the idea?
yeah i know that i have to plug in the fraction for g(x)... just need help simplifying
so that i get x from there
OK, first simplify 5g(x)
do i multiply 5 on the bottom and top of the fraction?
so i would get -5 -25x / 25x
\[5g(x)= 5\cdot \frac{-1-5x}{5x}\]
So the 5 in top and the bottom cancel each other out (5/5 = 1)
so i dont even have to multiply cause they cancel out?
If you are following, then you get \[\frac{-1-5x}{x} \]
Now add 5.
foster: delete ur comments and it wont show up
It is always good to cancel things. You could multiply things out but it's messier
yeah i agree
let me do it on paper and ill get back to you in a sec or 2
ok and then?
You asked above: so i would get -5 -25x / 25x no. when you multiply fractions, you multiply top times top, bottom times bottom In the case of a whole number like 5, you assume the bottom is 1 (5/1 = 5). So, if you did multiply things out it would be \[\frac{5}{1}\cdot\frac{-1-5x}{5x}= \frac{-5-25x}{5x}\]
yeah i get that
Did you add 5 to \[\frac{-1-5x}{x} \] ?
too many rules to remember sometimes
I agree about the rules. lots of them to remember.
yes and got -1 / 4-5x/x
You got \[ \frac{-1}{4} - \frac{5x}{x} \]
How?!
i added 5 to -1 so i got 4
OK, some more rules. http://www.khanacademy.org/video/adding-fractions-with-like-denominators?playlist=Developmental+Math http://www.khanacademy.org/video/adding-fractions-with-unlike-denominators?playlist=Developmental+Math when you have time. They are very short, but helpful
why? what am i doing wrong?
Meanwhile, to add fractions, you make sure both fractions have the same bottom, and then you can add the tops. 5 is a whole number, so its bottom is understood to be 1
The first fraction has an x in the bottom. So you have to change the 5 to have an x in its bottom.
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so the same fractional rules apply with variables as well
The upside to the rules, no exceptions.
i see
i got x :D
when you add 5, you change it to 5x/x and now you add the tops (-1-5x+5x)/x = -1/x so you should get -1/x
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