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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Question on concavity...the question is atached as a picture

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find the second derivative of the function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok hold one lemem try

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its 3x^2 -4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now what

OpenStudy (anonymous):

set it equal to zero to find the inflection point

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its 2/3 radical 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the inflectiobn point

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it c or d

OpenStudy (turingtest):

what is f''(0)? what is f''(-2)? what is f''(2)? each value of x is in a particular interval. if f(x)<0 in that interval the graph is concave down. if f(x)>0 in that interval the graph is concave up. plug in the values and determine which intervals have f(x)<0, and which have f(x)>0

OpenStudy (turingtest):

btw the inflection points are {-2(sqrt3)/3,2(sqrt3)/3} because square roots give two answers.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so is the asnwer c or d

OpenStudy (turingtest):

:/ just plug in f''(0) and you should be able to tell whether it is c or d

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got d

OpenStudy (turingtest):

what is f''(0) tell me what number you get

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got f''(o) is 0

OpenStudy (turingtest):

you already determined that f''(x)=3x^2-4 so f''(0)=????

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-4

OpenStudy (turingtest):

yes so that means f''(0)<0 so f(x) is concave down at x=0 x=0 is in the interval (-2/3sqrt3,2/3sqrt3) so that means f(x) is concave down in that interval. now which answer says f(x) is concave down in the interval (-2/3sqrt3,2/3sqrt3)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

c

OpenStudy (turingtest):

YES! very good. isn't it more satisfying to see WHY the answer is correct, rather than just be given it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

YESS!! it is but sometimes ppl dont explain it well to me so tahts y i just ask 4 teh answer...u on the other hand explained it very well

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=) thank u

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I try, thanks. and you're welcome :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

calc bc is confusing =P....teacher goesss waaaay 2 fast

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im not dumb in matth....just need sum1 to explain it well tahts all

OpenStudy (turingtest):

It all depends on the teacher. calc can be pretty easy if you take it step by step. You understood my explanation, so you are clearly capable of doing the work, you most likely just haven't had it explained properly. Some teachers suck :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can i ask y a q....in teh beg..how did u determine the intervals to use like u needed to find f''(0) , f''(-2) and f''(2)

OpenStudy (turingtest):

The inflection points tell the intervals. They occur when f''(x)=0 f''(x)=3x^2-4=0--->x={-2/3sqrt3,2/3sqrt3} so those points are where the graph (potentially) changes from concave up to concave down. This divides our function into three intervals that we need to check:\[(-\infty,-2\sqrt3/3) \]\[(-2\sqrt3/3,2\sqrt3/3) \]\[(2\sqrt3/3, \infty)\] so pick a number from each interval and plug it into f''(x) I chose x=-2 because it is in the first interval. I could have chosen x=-5 because it is also in that interval, or any x<2/3sqrt3 similarly I chose 0 because it is in the second interval. again I had other choices, 0 just seemed easiest and of course the same goes for why I chose 2. it's a (practically) random number that is in the third interval. It could have been any x>2/3sqrt3 I hope that helps your understanding.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhh i see now... just pick numbers within the interval to see teh behavior of the line

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks for your explanation

OpenStudy (turingtest):

Yes, that is a good way of putting it. I believe you understand. Congrads :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes it feels gud to understand math =)

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