Find the 30th term in the geometric sequence if t{10}=(512) and t{15}=(16384). HELP!!!
hi there
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well it so happens that 512 and 16384 are both powers of 2
2^9 = 512, and 2^14 = 16384, so the sequence appears to be that t{n} = 2^{n-1}
does that help?
ohhh... kind of.
so a = 2?
what formula are you using for the geometric sequence? (i'm not sure what 'a' is in your terminology)
cos I'm following the tn = a*r^n-1
so in this case a is just 1
and r?
2
the nth term is 2 to the power of n-1
so what's the 30th term?
it's gonna be t30 = 1(2)^30-1
right
ohhh..
btw
do I ever use this: t10 = 512 t15 = 16384 tn = a*r^n-1 t10 = a*r^10-1 512 = a*r^9
tn = a*r^n-1 t15 = a*r^15-1 16 384 = a*r^14
yeah, that's the general way to solve this problem. I was just taking a shortcut since I happened to recognize both of those numbers as being powers of 2, and you need a calculator to take the 14th root of something. since I happened to recognize the numbers it was easy to solve without a calculator.
Divide 16384 ar^14 ------ = ------- 512 ar^9 32 = r^5 +/- 6.4 = r
ohhh, what if I want to use this method?
sub 6.4 for r in (1): 512 = ar^9 512 = a(6.4)^9 512 = 180a --- ----- 180 180 2. 84 = a
well 16384/512 is 32, and they are 5 terms apart. that means something to the 5th power is equal to 32, i.e. r^5 = 32. The easiest way to solve this then is to take the log of both sides: 5 log(r) = log(32) log(r) = log(32)/5 r = e^(log(32)/5) r = 2
sub -6.4 for 4 in (1) 512 = ar^9 512 = a(-6.4)^9 512 = -180a --- ----- -180 -180 - 2. 84 = a
Since a = 2.84 & r = 6.4, the first three terms are: 2. 84, 18.18, 116. 33, ... Since a = -2.84 & r = -6.4 the first three terms are: -2.84, 18.18, -116. 33, ...
we appear to be working on different problems
really?
You wrote: 32=r^5 r=6.4 This is wrong, how did you get that value of r?
ohhh.. how do I do that?
Oh wait you just divided. That's not right. r to the 5th power is 32, not r times 5.
Do you know how to use logarithms?
nope.
are you allowed to use a calculator?
yes, but do you know how to do it by paper-&-pencil?
I'd like how to know both methods.
There's no easy way to do it with pencil because you have to take the 5th root of 32, which you need to do with logarithms
ohh, okay. so by using the calculator?
take the 5th root of 32
huh?
how?
hello?
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