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OpenStudy (aravindg):

dalvoron can u help @physics

OpenStudy (anonymous):

post your question

OpenStudy (aravindg):

ishaan can u help??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first post your questions

OpenStudy (aravindg):

A gun of mass M fires a shell of mass m horizontally

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OKay

OpenStudy (aravindg):

and the energy of the explosion

OpenStudy (aravindg):

is sufficient to raise the shell to a vertical height h.Show that the velocity of the recoil of the gun is (2m^2gh/(M+m))^1/2

OpenStudy (aravindg):

assume that the gun barrel is rigidly attached to a carriage

OpenStudy (aravindg):

which is free to move on a frictionless horizontal surface

OpenStudy (aravindg):

pls help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well how much potential energy does the shell have at its apogee?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you know the equation for potential energy?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

mgh

OpenStudy (aravindg):

ishu??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what does "ishu??" mean

OpenStudy (aravindg):

pls help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm momentum must be conserved

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i'm trying

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0 = M(V) + m(v - V)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think the potential energy of the shell at its apogee equals the kinetic energy of the recoil

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry it should be 0=MV - m(v-V)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but the question says explosion, is the explosion inside the gun carriage?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

dont knw

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (aravindg):

pls read qn again

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm then 2gh = MV^2 + m(v - V)^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

V = mv/(m+M)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

v = (m+M)/m we should use this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

v = (m+M)V/m

OpenStudy (anonymous):

energy=mgh, 1/2MV^2 = mgh, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm, that doesn't come out right, because solving that for v gives sqrt(2)sqrt(g)sqrt(h)sqrt(m)/sqrt(M)

OpenStudy (aravindg):

.........

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think it should be mgh = 1/2m(v-V)^2

OpenStudy (aravindg):

hey u getting that pals??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what's little v?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i get \[V=\sqrt{2} \sqrt{{ghm\over M}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i'm not sure if that's the same as when we were asked to prove

OpenStudy (aravindg):

ishaan??did u get?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no I didn't little v is for shell's velocity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when? at the moment of firing?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we don't know that though, we only know its ultimate height

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait hmmm 2gh = v^2 2gh = (m+M)^2/m^2V^2 2gh(m+M)^2 ----------------- = V^2 m^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what's 2gh?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh sorry my bad 2ghm^2 -------------- = V^2 (M+m^2)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mgh = 1/2* m v^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah i see

OpenStudy (aravindg):

u got the answr?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh wait wait i see where you're going, you clever guy, it's that the initial energy is moving the combined mass of both shell and gun

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but I am a little confused I mean for linear momentum conservation I had to use |dw:1321866308998:dw|

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