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OpenStudy (anonymous):

What are the numbers bigger than infinity ?

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

infinity + 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2x infinity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no, there is something about cantorset

OpenStudy (zarkon):

are you thinking of the cardinality of a set

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, I don't know much about it

OpenStudy (zarkon):

don't think too much about the cantor set...it will make you crazy ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

There are no numbers bigger than infinity.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

actually , there is

OpenStudy (zarkon):

when you are talking about the sizes of sets...there are different levels of infinity

OpenStudy (jamesj):

There are, in fact, an infinite number of infinities when thinking about cardinality.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That kind of thinking makes people go mad :(

OpenStudy (zarkon):

yes....keep applying the power set

OpenStudy (jamesj):

The way to think about it is. Two sets X and Y are said to be of the same cardinal type or have the same cardinality if there exists a bijection between them. For example, if X = {1,2,3}, Y = {cat,dog,horse}, these two sets have the same cardinality and we call that cardinality 3.

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Now consider all the natural numbers, N. We call the cardinality of this set aleph-zero \[ \aleph_0 \]

OpenStudy (jamesj):

It turns out that the integers and the rational numbers also have cardinality aleph-0. So in fact does every lattice \[ \mathbb{Z}^n, \mathbb{Q}^n, \mathbb{N}^n \] for every finite n. But it turns out the real numbers do not have cardinality aleph-0

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Instead, it can be shown that the reals have the same cardinality as the power set of N. We call it aleph-1, \( \aleph_1 \).

OpenStudy (jamesj):

You can continue stepping up cardinality by continuing to take power sets. For example, the power set of the reals has cardinality aleph-2.

OpenStudy (jamesj):

It's worth noting for this notion of infinity that \[ \aleph_0 + 1 = \aleph_0 - 1 = \aleph \] If you take the integers, take one of them away or add one more, you still have the same number.

OpenStudy (jamesj):

It's also true that if you look at all the even numbers, they also have cardinality \( \aleph_0 \).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

james can u come help me?

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