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OpenStudy (anonymous):

James?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

give me edals

OpenStudy (jamesj):

so the answer is?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh that was annoying i cldnt type

OpenStudy (anonymous):

give me medals free medals for everyone

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you write the equation again please :D

OpenStudy (jamesj):

\[ \frac{d \ }{dx} \int_{17}^x \sin(t^2)/t \ dt \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

d/dx(sinx^2/x) - d/dx(sin(17)/17)

OpenStudy (jamesj):

No

OpenStudy (anonymous):

where did i go wrong?

OpenStudy (jamesj):

look at the earlier example with ln

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k i will

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wasn't it d/dx(F(x)-F(17))

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i see where i went wrong!!!!

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Yes, but F is not the integrand.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

F(x)=-cosx/x???

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Nooo

OpenStudy (anonymous):

K just tell me the answer

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Look at the ln example again.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

In the example we subsituted t for x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

In the example we subsituted t for x

OpenStudy (jamesj):

\[ \frac{d \ }{dx} \int_2^x \ln(t^2+1) \ dt \]

OpenStudy (jamesj):

What is the value of that expression?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont know i am feeling very stupid!!!!!! dF/dx=ln(x^2+1)

OpenStudy (jamesj):

If \[ F(t) = \int \ln(t^2+1) \ dt \] then \[ \int_2^x \ln(t^2+1) \ dt = F(x) - F(2) \]. Hence \[\frac{d \ }{dx} \int_2^x \ln(t^2+1) \ dt = \frac{d \ }{dx} (F(x) - F(2)) \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

righ

OpenStudy (jamesj):

and by the Fund Theorem of Calculus, dF/dx = ln(x^2 + 1). Also (d/dx)F(2) = 0 because F(2) is a number, a constant. Hence the entire expression is just ln(x^2+1)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

James do you think you help me please?

OpenStudy (jamesj):

So, return now to the next example where the integrand has a sin function. What is the value of that derivative?

OpenStudy (jamesj):

@mft, I'll try and get to it. unfortunately you're not the first to ask.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dont take james away form me:(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i can wait

OpenStudy (jamesj):

quick rld613. I want to move on with you to yet another example afterwards

hero (hero):

rld said she didn't need OS anymore

OpenStudy (jamesj):

so (d/dx) int_17^x sin(t^2)/t dt = ...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i didnt get that why is 17 to th epower of x

OpenStudy (jamesj):

\[ (d/dx) \int_{17}^x \sin(t^2)/t \ dt \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (jamesj):

evaluate. What is the that equal to.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y is it wrong what i showed u b4?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

plz be nice to me and show me all the step? :D

OpenStudy (jamesj):

No. You write out the steps, following line by the line the example we just used for ln. I'm going to help someone else for a while and expect the right answer when I get back ;-)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

LOL see u later :D

OpenStudy (jamesj):

I'm serious. And I'll be back in 5 minutes, so hurry.

OpenStudy (jamesj):

??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u did u come back already!!!

OpenStudy (jamesj):

What's the answer?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

K can u walk me thru the steps cuz like i bever learnt this stuff? YOu r so scary LOL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I was hoping i wld have the answer b4 u wld return

OpenStudy (anonymous):

teh answer wld sinx/x?

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Exactly as before, exactly, let \[ F(t) = \int \sin(t^2)/t \ dt \] Then \[ \int_{17}^x \sin(t^2)/t \ dt = F(x) - F(17) \] Thus the derivative of this definite integral \[ \frac{d\ }{dx} (F(x) - F(17)) = ... \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

iSo what is F(x)?????

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That is where i am going wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i know si(x)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

d/dx(si(x)?

OpenStudy (jamesj):

like we've seen, we actually don't need an explicit formula for F(x). We just need to know it is this integral and then use the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus.

OpenStudy (jamesj):

What is dF/dx here? What is it equal to?

OpenStudy (jamesj):

By the FTC, dF/dx = .... what?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You are forsure ready to kill me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You are forsure ready to kill me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hero (hero):

shakes head

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dF/dx= sinx^2/x

OpenStudy (jamesj):

correct. Hence the derivative wrt (with respect to) x of the entire integral equals what?

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

hey james can you help me with math?

OpenStudy (jamesj):

This thing ... what's it equal to?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sinx^2/x????? this is a guess

OpenStudy (jamesj):

it shouldn't be guess. it is exactly right.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh ya !!!!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That is what i thought in the first place but i left out by accident the squared

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can be so annoying sometimes

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Now one more to make sure you really understand. Evaluate this: \[ \frac{d \ }{dx} \int_x^{x^2} \sqrt{t^3+1} \ dt \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh u r so funny!!!

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Now write out the steps. This problem isn't exactly the same as the others.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok give me a sec

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[d/dx=(\sqrt{x ^{6}+1}-\sqrt{x ^{3}+1})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This one i guessed

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think it was suppossed to be dF/dx

OpenStudy (jamesj):

The expression is equal to \[ \frac{d \ }{dx} \left( F(x^2) - F(x) \right) \ \ \ \ \ \ --(*)\] where by the Fund Theorem of Calculus, \[ dF/dx = \sqrt{x^3+1} \] Now given that, evaluate the first expression, (*).

OpenStudy (jamesj):

hint: you need to use the chain rule.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so let me try that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

james u gotta help me out on this one

OpenStudy (jamesj):

you think about it for a bit and write the answer sometime in the next day when you know what's going on.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alrighty thanks james

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I will call you back when i get the

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got the answer :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[2x \sqrt{x ^{6}+1} - \sqrt{x ^{3}+1}\] Here is my answer. Thanks james for your help. I really appreciate it

OpenStudy (jamesj):

that's it. Good

OpenStudy (jamesj):

One more variation they might throw at you in the exam. Evaluate: \[ \frac{d^2 \ }{dx^2} \int_2^x \ln(\cos t) \ dt \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh this is very simple there is just one small catch that you have to differentiate it twice

OpenStudy (anonymous):

d/dx(ln(cosx)) (1/cosx)*-sin(x)= -sin(x)/cos(x) -tan(x)

OpenStudy (jamesj):

exactly, good.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think that is the answer. I took my final exam already and it was basically simple except ofr a related rates problem. Going on vacation for a month So see u then. Thanks for your help james

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh u are here LOL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks for helping me out

OpenStudy (jamesj):

sure. have a good vacation.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

U better take a vacation from OS tooo!!! :D

OpenStudy (jamesj):

I might just do that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ya u need a break to refresh again

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