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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Really annoying trigonometric graphing, help!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I need 1,2,5, and 10-24

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm just not grasping the concept.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

f(x) = tan πx/4 g(x) =1/2 sec πx/4 Approximate the interval where f < g. lets set this up then, we know f and g tan (πx/4) < 1/2 sec(πx/4)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

one thing that might help is to rewrite sec, or maybe even tan. into equivalent terms

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how so?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

well, tan = sin/cos, right? and sec = 1/cos .... that might help us see the resemblence

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[\frac{sin (πx/4)}{cos (πx/4)} < \frac{1}{2}\frac{1}{cos(πx/4)}\] we can get rid of that 1/2 by multiplying by 2 \[\frac{(2)sin (πx/4)}{cos (πx/4)} < \frac{1(2)}{2}\frac{1}{cos(πx/4)}\] \[\frac{2sin (πx/4)}{cos (πx/4)} < \frac{1}{cos(πx/4)}\] now it looks better

OpenStudy (amistre64):

since the denominators are the same, lets equate numberators

OpenStudy (amistre64):

2sin(pi x/4) < 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now we graph the equation to find the point?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

id stick to the analysis rather than a graph; the graph can be used to dbl chk the results; but i doubt it will give a definitive result

OpenStudy (amistre64):

sin (t) < 1/2; well, when does sin(t) = 1/2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how would we go about the analysis?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

divide each side by 2 to get: sin(t) < 1/2 im using "y" to help clean up the argument

OpenStudy (amistre64):

"t" that is ... cant type ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's not one of the choices though :/ ,

OpenStudy (amistre64):

why would it be? we are only in the middle of it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hang in there and understand the steps.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OH! Gotcha. I just have a terrible teacher who goes about everything explaining really fast, and then expecting us to know all this. I'm sorry.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

it would be good to remember the basic angles of trig; i believe this is one of them

OpenStudy (amistre64):

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OpenStudy (amistre64):

sin(t) = 1/2, when t = 30 degrees, or pi/6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that the special right triangle?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

it is

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i have to remember the interval: -pi/4 to pi/4, that is between 45 and -45 degrees if i recall it correctly

OpenStudy (amistre64):

now i would see about equating pi x/4 and t pi x/4 = pi/6 divide off the pis x/4 = 1/6 and multiply off the 1/4 x = 4/6 , and simplify x = 2/3 so, if i did it right, it should be (-1, 2/3) but if you have questions as to why, it would be good to ask. The numbers tend to be unimportant and it is the process that matters.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why the -1?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

its part of our initial interval; and sin(pi *-1/4) is less than 1/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i see. so for number 2 i would just multiply our original interval?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

it would be nice if we could, but no. trig functions are periodic, they do not act like linear functions. so its best to retrace the steps to make sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or would it not change?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

2f just changes how high or low the graph would go; so id guess that its the same intervals. But i would still have to dbl chk the results

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its not it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

like, number 1 was right, but 2f changed it in some way, because now it's not the same

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[2*\frac{sin (πx/4)}{cos (πx/4)} < 2*\frac{1}{2}\frac{1}{cos(πx/4)}\] \[\frac{2sin (πx/4)}{cos (πx/4)} < \frac{1}{cos(πx/4)}\] \[2sin (πx/4) < 1\] \[sin (πx/4) < 1/2\] it looks to be the same

OpenStudy (anonymous):

must be a problem with the software. now for number 5,i cant tell the graphs apart

OpenStudy (amistre64):

which one is number 5? this thing is hard to follow

OpenStudy (anonymous):

graph for y=csc (x)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

well, I know csc is the humpbacks of sine|dw:1323628829369:dw|

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