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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is this series correct? (last one on the page) File attached.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (mr.math):

Is it \(\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{n^2+1}{3n^2-n+2}?\)

OpenStudy (mr.math):

If so, then it diverges by the divergence test, since its limit is different than zero.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, that's the equation, and Divergence is TFD right?

OpenStudy (mr.math):

What's TFD?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Test For Divergence? I think?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

last term test; if not 0 diverges

OpenStudy (mr.math):

I think so! :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thats what I get for taking an online class...

OpenStudy (mr.math):

The test states that every convergent series \(an\) has a limit zero as n goes to infinity.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

it states no such thing ... it states if it doesNOT go to zero, it diverges. if it goes to zero, another test has to be done

OpenStudy (mr.math):

That's exactly what I said @amistre.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if it converges, it will have to be zero yes lol

OpenStudy (amistre64):

its your british accent; hard to read

OpenStudy (mr.math):

LOL!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wait, what if the problem is \[n^{2}+1{/}3n^3+2\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

then the test for divergence fails and we have to do another test

OpenStudy (mr.math):

This is without any doubt diverges. I don't need to study math to tell :P

OpenStudy (mr.math):

divergent*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And what psychic powers did you use to get that?

OpenStudy (mr.math):

Haha. No powers, just the theorem I just mentioned above. Can you tell what's the limit of the expression you gave above as \(n\to \infty\)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can that be done just by inspection of the limit?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i think he meant:\[\frac{n^{2}+1}{3n^3+2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, how did you get it to do that?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\frac{top}{bottom}

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahh, thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm studying here with a friend, and he seems to think its done by using LCT not TFD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

with bn = 1/n

OpenStudy (amistre64):

tfd comes up zero, so it fails that one

OpenStudy (amistre64):

youd have to pick another test to determine c or d

OpenStudy (amistre64):

compare it to 1/n seems most likely

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can someone help me with my problem?

OpenStudy (mr.math):

Oh I see! Well, it's still divergent. As for the limit for rational functions f(n) as n goes to infinity, you have three cases: 1) The degree of the top is greater than the bottom, the limit is \(\infty\). 2) The degree of the top is less than the bottom, the limit is 0. 3) The degree of the top of the bottom and the the top are the same, the limit is the coefficient of the term of the higher degree on the top over the coefficient of the term with the highest degree in the bottom.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

its not a good candidate for the integral; unless you can get the wolf to do it :)

OpenStudy (mr.math):

So \(\frac{n^2+1}{3n^2+2} \to \frac{1}{3} \text{ as } n \to \infty.\)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

right, but the next one has a degree 3 on the underside

OpenStudy (mr.math):

Haha! You've already got a next one?!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (mr.math):

I don't understand why you would need to use the comparison test.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because you can't tell by inspection of the limit as far as I know

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[\frac{n^{2}+1}{3n^3-n+2}\gt\frac{1}{n}\] \[n^{3}+n \gt 3n^3-n+2\] \[0 \gt 2n^3-2n+2\] doesnt look to be greater than 1/n

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Mk, so that means it diverges, correct?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i/n diverges, and anything greater than 1/n would diverge; but this is less than it so we have to do another test if we can

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ratio and roots are inconclusive ...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Mk, that works

OpenStudy (amistre64):

what is "Mk" ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Translating my version of "ok" in real life into text. Phonetically its more or less mmkay

OpenStudy (amistre64):

oooh, got it :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And do either of you two do Diff Equations?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i dabble, nothing fancy tho

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If I past this Calc finals in 3 hours, I'll be taking Diffy next semester

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