Is this series correct? (last one on the page) File attached.
Is it \(\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{n^2+1}{3n^2-n+2}?\)
If so, then it diverges by the divergence test, since its limit is different than zero.
Yeah, that's the equation, and Divergence is TFD right?
What's TFD?
Test For Divergence? I think?
last term test; if not 0 diverges
I think so! :D
Thats what I get for taking an online class...
The test states that every convergent series \(an\) has a limit zero as n goes to infinity.
it states no such thing ... it states if it doesNOT go to zero, it diverges. if it goes to zero, another test has to be done
That's exactly what I said @amistre.
if it converges, it will have to be zero yes lol
its your british accent; hard to read
LOL!
Wait, what if the problem is \[n^{2}+1{/}3n^3+2\]
then the test for divergence fails and we have to do another test
This is without any doubt diverges. I don't need to study math to tell :P
divergent*
And what psychic powers did you use to get that?
Haha. No powers, just the theorem I just mentioned above. Can you tell what's the limit of the expression you gave above as \(n\to \infty\)?
Can that be done just by inspection of the limit?
i think he meant:\[\frac{n^{2}+1}{3n^3+2}\]
yes, how did you get it to do that?
\frac{top}{bottom}
ahh, thanks
I'm studying here with a friend, and he seems to think its done by using LCT not TFD
with bn = 1/n
tfd comes up zero, so it fails that one
youd have to pick another test to determine c or d
compare it to 1/n seems most likely
can someone help me with my problem?
Oh I see! Well, it's still divergent. As for the limit for rational functions f(n) as n goes to infinity, you have three cases: 1) The degree of the top is greater than the bottom, the limit is \(\infty\). 2) The degree of the top is less than the bottom, the limit is 0. 3) The degree of the top of the bottom and the the top are the same, the limit is the coefficient of the term of the higher degree on the top over the coefficient of the term with the highest degree in the bottom.
its not a good candidate for the integral; unless you can get the wolf to do it :)
So \(\frac{n^2+1}{3n^2+2} \to \frac{1}{3} \text{ as } n \to \infty.\)
right, but the next one has a degree 3 on the underside
Haha! You've already got a next one?!
I don't understand why you would need to use the comparison test.
because you can't tell by inspection of the limit as far as I know
\[\frac{n^{2}+1}{3n^3-n+2}\gt\frac{1}{n}\] \[n^{3}+n \gt 3n^3-n+2\] \[0 \gt 2n^3-2n+2\] doesnt look to be greater than 1/n
Mk, so that means it diverges, correct?
i/n diverges, and anything greater than 1/n would diverge; but this is less than it so we have to do another test if we can
ratio and roots are inconclusive ...
Mk, that works
what is "Mk" ?
Translating my version of "ok" in real life into text. Phonetically its more or less mmkay
oooh, got it :)
:P
And do either of you two do Diff Equations?
i dabble, nothing fancy tho
If I past this Calc finals in 3 hours, I'll be taking Diffy next semester
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