values for y= |6-x| + |1+x|
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hmmm, looked right in my head
Um, the graph should look something |dw:1326202935400:dw| I just need the values.. which I don't have...
its x=-1 to 6 and y = 7; but how to get to them
Yes.. Exactly... How to get them is the question...
\[\sqrt{(...)^2}\] dunno if this would help
Um... It doesn't help much, sorry...
y = f(x) + g(x) f(x) = |6-x|; g(x) = |x+1| |dw:1326203445807:dw|
for x>=6 y= x-6 + 1+x= 2x-5 or y= 2x-5 (x>=6)
it seems to have a solution from vertex to vertex ... i loathe absvalue problems lol
Same Same... This is how it's meant to look http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot+y%3D |6-x|+%2B+|1%2Bx|
yeah, the flat part is the solution for some reason
Oh well... The book I have doesn't explain this part properly... I mean the adding of the absolute values and graphing them, but only explains it for let's say, y=|x+2|... Textbooks hardly ever mention the further aspects, sadly.
for x<=-1 y= 6-x -x-1 or y= -2x+5
Ok... but I thought it was x>-1?
for -1 <=x <=6 y= 6-x + 1+ x or y=7
How did you get that? I got 1< x< 6?
I started with the case x>=6 (my first post), which means |6-x| just becomes 6-x. same for |1+x|, it is just 1+x
And you do 6-x>=0 And you do -(6-x)<=0?
I mean -(6-x)<0?
Then, look at the case for x<= -1 |6-x| is 6-x (example |6 - (-2)| =|6+2| = 6+2 |1+x| is -1-x
I am trying to get rid of the absolute value operation. so for certain values of x you replace |6-x| with 6-x. you end up with y= f(x)
But I am confusing the issue, for x>=6, replace |6-x| with x-6
Yes, I understand that. But I don't understand why you got x<=-1
Oh I understand!
y = |6-x| + |1+x| y has a value for all x, including x<= -1 when x<= -1, we can get rid of the abs ops.
You switch the value of 6-x to x-6! That makes more sense
Oh, after that, how do you get the values for the graph?
Yes, sorry about typing it wrong!
Do the problem for x<= -1
You have the 3 values.. or equation things.. yes, and end up with something like 2x-5 or so... but what does the 2x-5 stand for?
with three different things.. One will be a number, to will be something like 2x-5
y= 2x-5 for x>=6 it is a line, but only valid for x>=6. so from x>=6 you know y is 2x-5 for x<6, we need a different equation (because |6-x| changes behaviour at x=6)
So, would the value be 6? And is the 2x-5 just the line?
|dw:1326205097797:dw| you piece them together to get the whole solution
Ok, I understand.. but for the line 2x-5, what are the values?
if x=6, y= 12-5= 7
Do you just plug in random values?
no, the "value" is the equation. (unless they are asking for y at a specific x)
Hmm, so how would you know how to graph it accurately?
you can graph the line y= 2x-5, then erase everything for x<6, because you use a different equation for that region
Ok, but how do you graph the line y= 2x-5 in the first place? how would you know at what degree it slopes upwards from that point?
pick an x value and find the y. plot the point. Repeat with another x. Connect the dots. Erase the part of the line for x<6
Ok, so it's randome values?
random sorry...
Here's the entire solution in one place: y= 2x-5 (x>=6) y=7 (-1 <=x <=6) y= -2x+5 (x<=-1 )
OK.. so 7 is the straight value... for how many x values?
Til 6 and -1 right?
Do you have to plot the solution? If so, I would use x=6 (y=7), and x=7 (y=9)
and then the lines slope upwards with random x- values that occur after or before -1 and 6? I have to sketch the solution.. but later on I have to plot, so it's best I start knowing how
Yes, I understand how to plot!
I couldn't have solved this without you!!! Thanks so much!
It sounds like you have the gist of it. For the flat part (y=7), draw a horizontal line at y=7. But it is only valid between x=-1 and x=6
good luck!
Thanks again!
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