|x+1|+|1-x|=2
Solve for x with a method other than graphing?
That's what I thought, but there is a solution...
what is it ?
\[-1\le x \le 1\] Which is practically 0, but NO SOLUTION isn't correct either
\[\Large - 1 \le x \le 1\]
How?
How does that work?
It doesn't work ;)
If it doesn't work, how do you do it?
By blunderous error. It's not correct. FFM, can't we only imply that: \[\Large \begin{array}{l} \left| { - x} \right| \le 1\\ \left| x \right| \le 1\\ x \le 1 \end{array}\]
Here is my attempt. using what FSM stated, \( |1-x| \le 2 \implies -1 \le x \le 3 \) and \( |1+x| \le 2 \implies -3\le x \le 1 \) now if we take the union we get \(-1\le x \le 1 \) Is this correct?
Hmm. Seems to be so.
intersection... then notice that on \(-1\le x \le 1\) |x+1|=x+1 and |1-x|=1-x thus \[|x+1|+|1-x|=2 \Leftrightarrow x+1+1-x=2 \Leftrightarrow 2=2\] thus \(-1\le x \le 1\) is the solution
but if 2=2, how does that suggest -1<x<1?
yes Intersection,Thanks Zarkon.
2=2 is a tautology ...thus the equation works for all x between, and including, -1 and 1
btw x is real here ?
Yes, x is real
Haven't really learned that method.. but always a good way to find out new things. So.. tautology in math means?
you could always use \[|x|=\sqrt{x^2}\] and start squaring both sides
Let's just assume x is real ;) How about... \[\Large \begin{array}{l} \left| {x + 1} \right| + \left| {1 - x} \right| = 2\\ \sqrt {{{\left( {x + 1} \right)}^2}} \le 2\\ - 3 \le x \le 1\\ \sqrt {{{\left( {1 - x} \right)}^2}} \le 2\\ - 1 \le x \le 1 \end{array}\] Could you say that since there are two restrictions but since one is more restrictive than the other, it must be obeyed?
I tried that... but it didn't work.... Yes, it gave me two answers... so I don't think that method works so well for this... I don't know why the first one doesn't apply..
I have a similar equation... Can you see if you can solve that one instead? And see if the method works?
|x+1|-|1-x|=2
\( x \ge 1 \)?
yes :)
How did you get that? Using the squaring method, or?
I don't understand the squaring method :( I did it like before.
I would do cases
Ok... can you give me the equation again? I like to compare different ones to help me understand...
waht is "cases", Zarkon ?
|x+1|=x+1 if \(x\ge-1\) |x+1|=-(x+1) if \(x\le -1\) do that for both abs...solve each equation
Yes, I know that method, and I know that those are the values.. but I'm not sure how to plug those into an equation in order to find the solutions (values)?
|1-x|=-(x+1) if x≥1 |x+1|=x+1 if x≤1 so for example if \(x\ge 1\] |x+1|-|1-x|=2 turns into (x+1)-(-(1-x))=2 x+1+1-x=2 2=2 so \(x\ge 1\) is part of the solution check the others...
Um, that's a bit confusing...
if \[x\ge 1\] |x+1|-|1-x|=2 turns into (x+1)-(-(1-x))=2 x+1+1-x=2 2=2 so \[x\ge 1\] is part of the solution
Ok, thanks :) that's clearer
now you need to check \[-1<x<1\] and \[x\le -1\]
so the first one would be -(x-1) -(1+x) = 2 for -1<x<1?
and that is -2=2? What value is that in < or >? I'm not used to tautology,,,
|x+1|-|1-x|=2 -1<x<1 gives x+1-(1-x)=2 2x=2 which has no solution on -1<x<1
when x>=1, the condition is satisfied for x=1 the condition is satisfied for every value of x between -1 and 1 when x<=-1, this is satisfied by x=-1 so, the answer is: \[x \in [-1,1]\]
Ok... why is it not -(x-1) -(1+x) = 2?
on -1<x<1 |x+1|=x+1 |1-x|=1-x
Hmm.. I thought since x<1, it would be -(x+1) since it's less than 1?
on \(x\ge 1\) |x+1|=x+1 |1-x|=-(1-x) on -1<x<1 |x+1|=x+1 |1-x|=1-x on \(x\le -1\) |x+1|=-(x+1) |1-x|=1-x
I was just a bit confused, because my book says that, when x<n in this case, x<1 that if the equation is |3x-2| it would be -(3x-2)?
3x-2=0 3x=2 x=2/3 so 3x-2<0 when x<2/3 thus |3x-2|=3x-2 if \(x\ge 2/3\) and |3x-2|=-(3x-2) if x<2/3
I understand that..., but it also says: The modulus of x, denoted by |x|, is defined by |x|=x if x>=0 |x|=-x if x<0.... So, does that only apply to 0?
what do you mean "So, does that only apply to 0?"
it says x<0 or x>= 0 Does this rule only apply to it being less than or greater than 0?
if what is in the abs is positive then you get back what you started with if what is in the abs is negative then you get back the opposite of what you started with
Um... Ok, so what about -|x+1| + |1-x|=2? This is only for learning purposes... How would you solve this, step by step? I'm studying w/o a teacher.. and only a text book, so could you maybe, explain it like I'm one of those people reading "Modulus Functions for Dummies?" :)
find the places where x+1 is positive and negative and where 1-x is positive and negative ...when do cases
I need to go soon so I wont be much help from here on out
Ok, well, that's for trying!! I'm still not sure of this... so if anyone else is there...?
just one last note: it is possible to get erroneous solutions when using this technique so after finding a possible solution you should test any number within your interval to see if it satisfies the original equation.
Thanks for the tip!
Here's a picture of how I would try to solve these equations.
thanks!
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