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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[(1-x^2)y'-xy=1\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[y'-{x \over 1-x^2} y={1 \over (1-x^2)}\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

integration factor : \[ e^{\int {x \over (1-x^2)}dx}\] \[ =e^{{-1 \over 2}ln(1-x^2)} \] \[ = (1-x^2)^{-1/2}\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[[y (1-x^2)^{-1/2}]' = (1-x^2)^{-1/2} {1 \over (1-x^2)}\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[y(1-x^2)^{-1/2}=\int (1-x^2)^{-3/2}dx\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[ y(1-x^2)^{-1/2}={x \over \sqrt{1-x^2} }+c\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[ y=x+ c\sqrt{1-x^2 }\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

any mistakes?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[ y(x) = c/\sqrt{x ^2 -1} - (\ln \sqrt{x ^2 -1} + x)/\sqrt{x ^2 -1} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's very close to being right but I think there's a typo in there somewhere, because if you substitute into the original equation it only works if thats +xy not -xy...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, a couple of mistakes. When you found your integrating factor, you left out a minus sign in the exponent, so it should be \[\sqrt{1-x^2}\] This also changes what will be under the integral in your fourth comment. Once you fix that, you should be okay.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah. There it is. Integrating factor should be \[ e^{\int \frac{-x}{1-x^2} dx} \]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

Thank you three, That is my mistake for sure. hopefully that is the main(/only) one

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

is \[ ln (\sqrt {(x^2-1}))+x = arcsin(x) \]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't think so.Let me check..........

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, those two things are not the same. Consider x = .5. Then arcsin(x)=pi/6, but the left side clearly does not equal that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

An easier one to check is x = 0

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

when x=0 they are both 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When x = 0 LHS = ln (-1) RHS = 0

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

ops hahah you re totally right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No Problem.Always happy to help!

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

i will solve this problem tonight

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If you solve the abovementioned equality you will get : x ~~ -1.79828-3.03269 i... x ~~ -1.79828+3.03269 i... x ~~ 1.26215-0.307064 i... x ~~ 1.26215+0.307064 i...

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

so they are outta phase?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What do u mean?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

the complex bit is negative

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah they can be pretty confusing sometimes u have a plus and minus!

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[(1-x^2)y'-xy=1\]\[[y(1-x^2)^{1/2}]'=(1-x^2)^{-1/2}\]\[y(1-x^2)^{1/2}=\int(1-x^2)^{-1/2}dx\]\[y(1-x^2)^{1/2}=arcsin(x)+c\]\[y={arcsin(x) \over \sqrt{1-x^2}} +{c \over \sqrt{1-x^2}}\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

where am i going wrong?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The problem heavily depends on whether you are considering sqrt(1-x^2) or sqrt(x^2-1). Note that the first is only defined for x between -1 and 1 (exclusive, since you eventually divide by it) while the latter is defined for all other values of x (except for 1 and -1, since that would also eventually lead to dividing by zero). Thus, you actually have two very different problems, depending on which region you are considering. You have the correct solution for the interval from -1 to 1. Aron's solution is for the other region, since it involves integrating 1/sqrt(x^2-1), which has a very different solution than the integral of 1/sqrt(1-x^2). Both are correct in their respective regions.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Rewrite the equation: ( dy(x))/( dx)+(x y(x))/(x^2-1) = -1/(x^2-1) Let mu(x) = exp( integral x/(x^2-1) dx) = sqrt(x^2-1). Multiply both sides by mu(x): sqrt(x^2-1) ( dy(x))/( dx)+(x y(x))/sqrt(x^2-1) = -1/sqrt(x^2-1) Substitute x/sqrt(x^2-1) = ( d)/( dx)(sqrt(x^2-1)): sqrt(x^2-1) ( dy(x))/( dx)+( d)/( dx)(sqrt(x^2-1)) y(x) = -1/sqrt(x^2-1) Apply the reverse product rule f ( dg)/( dx)+( df)/( dx) g = ( d)/( dx)(f g) to the left-hand side: ( d)/( dx)(sqrt(x^2-1) y(x)) = -1/sqrt(x^2-1) Integrate both sides with respect to x: integral ( d)/( dx)(sqrt(x^2-1) y(x)) dx = integral -1/sqrt(x^2-1) dx Evaluate the integrals: sqrt(x^2-1) y(x) = -log(x+sqrt(x^2-1))+c_1, where c_1 is an arbitrary constant. Divide both sides by mu(x) = sqrt(x^2-1): y(x) = (-log(x+sqrt(x^2-1))+c_1)/sqrt(x^2-1)

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

@imperialist: great answer, you has explained the issues i was having, who would have guessed that is two solutions depending on how you handle with negative signs. i just checked the back of my book and the answer given was the one for the -1 to +1 region, which is what i had. @Aron West: thank you very much for typing out that second solution for the exterior region.

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