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OpenStudy (aravindg):

qns on permutations

OpenStudy (anonymous):

anticipation .... quite an audience .....

OpenStudy (aravindg):

ya plz wait

OpenStudy (anonymous):

qns qsn nqs nsq sqn snq

OpenStudy (aravindg):

prove 33! is divisible by 2^15

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how many even numbers from 2 to 32?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what mevere said!

OpenStudy (aravindg):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32

OpenStudy (aravindg):

didnt get you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's 16 numbers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

every time you have an even number it will contribute a factor of two to 33!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

32/2 = 16 16/2 = 8 8/2 = 4 4/2 = 2 2/2 = 1 16 + 8 + 4 + 2 + 1 = 31 2's

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then we could divide by 2^16 maybe even higher ....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what does this have to do with permutations?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how about this, find the greatest integer such that \[2^n | 33!\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can you something big?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think it's 31

OpenStudy (aravindg):

next :how many nos are there between 100 and 1000 in which all digits are distinct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i don't know the answer, but i bet we could find it. classify positive integers between 1 and 33 divisible by 2, 2^2, 2^3, etc

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For the firs one use http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LegendresFormula.html and it's trivial.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can write a 1-liner in Python to answer that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@AravindG, we have a lot of numbers that are divisible by 2. If we have 4! then we know that at least 4! is divisible by 2^2 since 4! contains 2 and 4 If we have 6! then we know that at least 6! is divisible by 2^3 since 6! contains 2 and 4 and 6 If we have 8! then we know that at least 8! is divisible by 2^4 since 8! contains 2 and 4 and 6 and 8 Same thing for 33!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's 31 im sure

OpenStudy (aravindg):

how many nos are there between 100 and 1000 in which all digits are distinct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ffm i am confused about how legandre is going to tell me how many powers of two are in all numbers less than or equal to n. i am not saying it is not right, i am saying i don't understand how that is going to give it to me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay: Prove \(33! \) is divisible by \(2^{15} \) Now, we can use Legendre's Formula to show that that the maximum power of 2 that divides \( 33!\) is \(2^{31}\) Hence the proof. QED.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

help me in next qn

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sat, it's probably a corollary of the Legendre's formula.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now i have to think.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Next question Find how many numbers are between 100 and 1000. Then subtract that by the number of non-distinct numbers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

>> how many nos are there between 100 and 1000 in which all digits are distinct? Hint: Break the problem in two parts, 1.How many three digits are there with that constraints. 2.How many four digits are there with that constraints.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sat, It's a standard trick that we were taught as a mathlete so I am sure you will get it in jiffy :)

OpenStudy (aravindg):

k

OpenStudy (aravindg):

next one

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i would start with a 3 digit number and say we have 9 choices for the hundreds place, (1 through 9) 9 for tens place (0 through 9 , less what was in the first spot 8 for the ones place. then repeat for numbers than 100 maybe there is a snappier way to do it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

*less than

OpenStudy (aravindg):

in how many ways can 6 woman draw water from 6 taps if no tap remains unused?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

6! unless i am seriously confused

OpenStudy (anonymous):

6!?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

definately 6!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://ideone.com/tWkFJ

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there are 648 numbers between [100,1000] (including 100 and 1000) where the digits are unique

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ffm i assume you mean above "three digit numbers"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes sat :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

It is 6! for you next question.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@agd, that's one way to do it! grind it til you find it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

see? One line in Python!

OpenStudy (aravindg):

how many 6 digit telephone nos can be constructed with digits 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 if each no: starts with 35 and no digit appears more than once

OpenStudy (anonymous):

all of your questions can be answered with the help of the itertools module in Python :-D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here is one line in my head \[9\times 9=81, 81\times 8=648\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Are you trying this problem even for a mint? Posting here is not going to help you.

OpenStudy (turingtest):

enough with the python thing adgd!!! lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@satellite that's actually better than my python solution :-D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just discovered list comprehensions... if I'm already annoying with Python... wait till I discover things like replacing classes with dictionaries and the full power of the itertools and related modules :-D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but yeah avarind you have to try these problems yourself in order to understand them yourself :-D

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I think you messed up moneybird, cant have 10 options for the first space since 3 and 5 have been chosen

OpenStudy (aravindg):

ya

OpenStudy (anonymous):

o i thought 3 and 5 are extra numbers

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I dont know, are they arvind?

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