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OpenStudy (anonymous):

factor 36-16m+m^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hi sammy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How are you doing ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

fine.How about you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am fine, thanks for asking :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

36 -16m +m^2 is that your question?

OpenStudy (ash2326):

m^2-16m+36=0 ax^2+bx+c=0 Let's find the discriminant D=b^2-4ac D=256-4*36 D=112 so the roots will be irrational \[x=(-b \pm \sqrt D)/2a\] \[m=(16 \pm \sqrt 112)/2\] \[m=(8 \pm 2 \sqrt7)\] so the factors are \[(m-(8+2 \sqrt 7))(m-(8-2 \sqrt7))\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OK, so sammy, what you want to do here is start by listing the factors of 36. What are they?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so we can't do this question using polynomial equation.Right

myininaya (myininaya):

do you mean quadratic formula?

myininaya (myininaya):

There is much easier way List factors of 36 like Laura was suggesting

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the factor is (m-(8 +2*sqrt(7))(m-(8-2*sqrt(7))

myininaya (myininaya):

\[36=6(6)=2(8)\] and if you can't find two factors that add up to be -16 then it isn't factorable over the integers

myininaya (myininaya):

you can use the quadratic formula to factor it over the complex numbers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know quadratic formula.but my teacher ask me to factor it

myininaya (myininaya):

yes but you can use that formula to factor it

myininaya (myininaya):

\[m=\frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a} \] => \[(m-\frac{-b + \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a})(m-\frac{-b - \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a})\]

myininaya (myininaya):

those are the factors of the polynomial given

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we didnt learn the quadratic formula in class.

myininaya (myininaya):

ok then I will assume that you are suppose to say this not factorable over the integers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but i know how do it.yes that's what i want to do

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you so much.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i will write not factorable

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You can find that: \[36=18*2\] and \[2-18=-16\] then: \[36-16m+m^{2}=(2-m)(18+m)\]

myininaya (myininaya):

so you are saying -m*m =m^2?

myininaya (myininaya):

-m*m does not equal m^2

myininaya (myininaya):

-m^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you're right, I'm wrong

myininaya (myininaya):

lol

myininaya (myininaya):

-3(-13)=39

myininaya (myininaya):

m^2-16m+36 is not factorable over the integers

myininaya (myininaya):

There are not two factors of 36 that have product 36 and sum -16.

myininaya (myininaya):

This implies the polynomial is not factorable over the integers.

myininaya (myininaya):

However we can factor any quadratic over the complex which was done above .

myininaya (myininaya):

exactly lol

myininaya (myininaya):

nasty square roots and fractions

myininaya (myininaya):

cofeee?

myininaya (myininaya):

coffee?

myininaya (myininaya):

Good discussion! :) Goodnight guys!

OpenStudy (zarkon):

this has to be the longest thread on factoring a quadratic. :)

myininaya (myininaya):

lol

myininaya (myininaya):

i think so

myininaya (myininaya):

unless you consider the proof i made to factor any quadratic over the complex without using completing the square, or quadratic formula

OpenStudy (zarkon):

I wouldn't consider that...that was for a general quadratic...this one is specific

myininaya (myininaya):

zarkon i missed the human you

OpenStudy (zarkon):

I can only be in human form for short periods of time

myininaya (myininaya):

i understand

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We can take it as: \[m^{2}-16m+36 = m^{2}-16m+64-28\] then you got a perfect square: \[(m^{2}-16m+64)-28 = (m-8)^{2}-28\] and you can work this as square difference: \[(m-8+\sqrt{28})(m-8-\sqrt{28})\]

myininaya (myininaya):

that is beautiful

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you!

myininaya (myininaya):

Ok great work and nice difference of square ruizgeorge :) night!

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