factor 36-16m+m^2
Hi sammy
hi
How are you doing ?
fine.How about you
I am fine, thanks for asking :)
36 -16m +m^2 is that your question?
m^2-16m+36=0 ax^2+bx+c=0 Let's find the discriminant D=b^2-4ac D=256-4*36 D=112 so the roots will be irrational \[x=(-b \pm \sqrt D)/2a\] \[m=(16 \pm \sqrt 112)/2\] \[m=(8 \pm 2 \sqrt7)\] so the factors are \[(m-(8+2 \sqrt 7))(m-(8-2 \sqrt7))\]
OK, so sammy, what you want to do here is start by listing the factors of 36. What are they?
yes
so we can't do this question using polynomial equation.Right
do you mean quadratic formula?
There is much easier way List factors of 36 like Laura was suggesting
the factor is (m-(8 +2*sqrt(7))(m-(8-2*sqrt(7))
\[36=6(6)=2(8)\] and if you can't find two factors that add up to be -16 then it isn't factorable over the integers
you can use the quadratic formula to factor it over the complex numbers
I know quadratic formula.but my teacher ask me to factor it
yes but you can use that formula to factor it
\[m=\frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a} \] => \[(m-\frac{-b + \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a})(m-\frac{-b - \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a})\]
those are the factors of the polynomial given
we didnt learn the quadratic formula in class.
ok then I will assume that you are suppose to say this not factorable over the integers
but i know how do it.yes that's what i want to do
Thank you so much.
i will write not factorable
You can find that: \[36=18*2\] and \[2-18=-16\] then: \[36-16m+m^{2}=(2-m)(18+m)\]
so you are saying -m*m =m^2?
-m*m does not equal m^2
-m^2
you're right, I'm wrong
lol
-3(-13)=39
m^2-16m+36 is not factorable over the integers
There are not two factors of 36 that have product 36 and sum -16.
This implies the polynomial is not factorable over the integers.
However we can factor any quadratic over the complex which was done above .
exactly lol
nasty square roots and fractions
cofeee?
coffee?
Good discussion! :) Goodnight guys!
this has to be the longest thread on factoring a quadratic. :)
lol
i think so
unless you consider the proof i made to factor any quadratic over the complex without using completing the square, or quadratic formula
I wouldn't consider that...that was for a general quadratic...this one is specific
zarkon i missed the human you
I can only be in human form for short periods of time
i understand
We can take it as: \[m^{2}-16m+36 = m^{2}-16m+64-28\] then you got a perfect square: \[(m^{2}-16m+64)-28 = (m-8)^{2}-28\] and you can work this as square difference: \[(m-8+\sqrt{28})(m-8-\sqrt{28})\]
that is beautiful
thank you!
Ok great work and nice difference of square ruizgeorge :) night!
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