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OpenStudy (anonymous):

solve the derivatives (e^3x)/(4x+1) so far i got \[(e ^{3x}(12x-1))/(16x ^{2}+4x+1\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

solve the derivatives? or calculate the derivatives?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[ e^{3x}(4x+1)^{-1}\] \[ e'^{3x}(4x+1)^{-1}+ e^{3x}(4x+1)'^{-1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

calculate sorry

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[e'^{3x}(4x+1)^{-1}+ e^{3x}(4x+1)'^{-1}\] \[3e^{3x}(4x+1)^{-1} -4e^{3x}(4x+1)^{-2}\]should be the first derivative

OpenStudy (amistre64):

it tends to be simpler to do product rule than quotient rule

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im really sorry but i dont seem to follow what you did

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[(3e^{3x}(4x+1) -4e^{3x})(4x+1)^{-2}\] \[\frac{3e^{3x}(4x+1) -4e^{3x}}{(4x+1)^{2}}\] can be reconstructed

OpenStudy (amistre64):

theres an inverse rule \[\frac{1}{a}=a^{-1}\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i just converted the denominator up into an exponent of -1 to use the product rule on it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya i multiplied the 3e^xx to the 4x and the 1 and then combined like terms and ultimatly removing a e^3x

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if you need more derivatives; its best to keep it in product form

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yeah, so far you did fine

OpenStudy (amistre64):

how many derivatives you need to take it to? or is the one good enough?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya its just one i think it says find f'(x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the ' indicating 1 derivative correct?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

then yeah, this is fine; just simplify it as far as you like or leave it as is. \[\frac{3e^{3x}(4x+1) -4e^{3x}}{(4x+1)^{2}}\] as long as you have places to plug in your "x" values to determines slopes thats fine

OpenStudy (anonymous):

really?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes, f' means 1st derivative :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yeah, prettying it up doesnt change its value one bit

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont have to simplify it down?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

not to use it, no

OpenStudy (amistre64):

making something pretty has no consequance on the values it produces

OpenStudy (amistre64):

3x + 4x produces the same results for and x value as 7x does right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you dont think the professor will mark it down

OpenStudy (amistre64):

dunno, i aint got your proffessor :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol good point well thank you. i must admit i did well for just learning this stuff today

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yeah, keep it up :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

even though using this in a physics 100 course seems a bit much

OpenStudy (amistre64):

derivatives are use din physics to model certain natural phenomenon and such; its good to know the concepts; but computers and such do the real work these days

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya but teaching this in a course

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is has a co-requisite with calc seems a bit rough, i m in calc im only learning about limists

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yeah, limits. something touted about but never really seen again

OpenStudy (anonymous):

good because they drive my crazy

OpenStudy (amistre64):

epsilons and delta and |x-c| < yada yada ... ugh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its like im just going to be as accurate as i want to be because there is an infinite space between points

OpenStudy (amistre64):

well, good luck :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

have a good one and thanks again

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