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OpenStudy (pokemon23):

factor #2

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

z^2 +10z+25

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

turingtest wanna help me on my hw :D

OpenStudy (turingtest):

sure :D think of two numbers that add to 10 and multiply to 25

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

5 and 5

OpenStudy (turingtest):

those will be the numbers that get added in the factoring you're doing i.e. in\[(x+a)(x+b)\]those will be your a and b in this case they're both 5

OpenStudy (turingtest):

so the factoring is\[(x+5)(x+5)\]can we simplify that a little?

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

no any more 5 is a prime number

OpenStudy (turingtest):

but we can write \[(x+5)(x+5)=(x+5)^2\]right ? that's the neatest way to do it ;)

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

ya :D

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

on two our next question

OpenStudy (turingtest):

in general, when you factor like that and get a=b, then you will have a perfect square like above

OpenStudy (turingtest):

ok

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

x^2 -16x+48

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

ask your magificent questions

OpenStudy (turingtest):

same thing only a little trickier... we need two numbers that add to -16 and multiply to 48 make sure the signs match! notice that the last number is positive, so both numbers must be negative to give a negative middle term and positive last term find the numbers

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

ummmm

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

(x-?) (x-?)

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I mean above that 48 is positive, and since that is the two numbers that we are looking for (call them a and b) both a and b must be negative because a negative times a negative is a positive Yes, good start writing it like that

OpenStudy (turingtest):

now think of factors of 48 and try adding them together: 1+48=49 not 16 2+24=26 not 16 ... find the factors that add to 16

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

4*4

OpenStudy (turingtest):

those multiply to 16, not 48 we need each pair of factors to multiply to 48 and /add/ to 16 just start going down the pairs of factors starting with 1 and check if they add to 16 1*48->1+48=49 2*24->2+24=26 continue 4*?...

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

12*4

OpenStudy (turingtest):

there ya go :D

OpenStudy (turingtest):

so what are a and b ?

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

so the answer is (x-12) (x-4)

OpenStudy (turingtest):

yep :)

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

on to the next one

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

c^2-2c-15

OpenStudy (turingtest):

again, same idea, but notice that this time both the second and third are negative, so what do we know about the signs of a and b -2-3=-5 and we want -2 -2*-3=6 and we want -15 so no to that bit...

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

-2 and -13

OpenStudy (turingtest):

do they add to -2 and multiply to -15 ?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

?

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

no

OpenStudy (turingtest):

well that's what we need two numbers that add the the middle number and multiply to the last one

OpenStudy (turingtest):

first of all think about the signs of a and b the last number is -15 (notice it's negative) what does that mean about the signs of a and b ?

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

both negatives

OpenStudy (turingtest):

but the last number is a*b if they were both negative the last number would be /positive/ because a negative times a negative is positive

OpenStudy (turingtest):

remember our last example both a and b were negative, because the last term was positive and the middle term negative

OpenStudy (turingtest):

it works like so: if the last term is positive, and the second term is positive, a and b are positive if the last term is positive, and the second term is negative, a and b are negative if the last term is negative the a and be have /opposite signs/ (because that is the only way to get a negative last number) Think about the reasoning for the rest of it too

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

well negative and positive

OpenStudy (turingtest):

right

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

5 or -3

OpenStudy (turingtest):

there is one more thing we can infer here too: the middle number, which is a+b, is negative that means that we will subtract the larger of the two numbers in our calculation having said that reconsider your answer a little

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

(c+5) (c-3)

OpenStudy (turingtest):

close, read what I wrote what is a+b in your case ?

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

(c+5) (c+3)

OpenStudy (turingtest):

...what is a+b ?

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

5 and 3

OpenStudy (turingtest):

a+b is supposed to be the middle number you had originally what is a+b for you? what should it be ? (you were closer when we established that a and b should have opposite signs)

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

5 and -3

OpenStudy (turingtest):

...add them, what do you get?

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

2

OpenStudy (turingtest):

and what's it supposed to be?

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

what do you mean both middle numbers hsould be - and + ?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

We are factoring\[x^2+Px+Q=(x+a)(x+b)\]if you foil out the parentheses you get\[(x+a)(x+b)=x^2+(a+b)x+ab=x^2+Px+Q\]looking at each side we can see that \[(a+b)=P\]and\[ab=Q\]in this case Q (the constant) is negative, so a and be must have different signs You found the right numbers, but they still do not add to make P, which in your case is -2. How can you fix that?

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

should*

OpenStudy (turingtest):

a and b must have different signs*

OpenStudy (turingtest):

5-3=2 and we want -2...

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

(c-5) (c+2)

OpenStudy (turingtest):

-5+2=-3 and we want -2... (-5)*2=-10 and we want -15...

OpenStudy (turingtest):

the numbers must be 5 and 3, those are the only factors of 15

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

(c-5) (c+3)

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

that was an error

OpenStudy (turingtest):

there we go :D

OpenStudy (turingtest):

this stuff is a little tricky the first time you learn it, but it get's easy with practice

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

finallly btw turning test meet my friend calc

OpenStudy (turingtest):

hi calc

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

I know him from real life ;D

OpenStudy (turingtest):

There's a real life o-0

OpenStudy (turingtest):

?

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

lol ?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I meant 'there's a real life ?'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For c^2 -2c -15, you have to find factors that add up to -2 and multiply to -15. Two factors that work are -5 and 3. Now, simply break up the c^2 since there is no coefficient and form (c - 5)(c + 3)

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

i know

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

nice job andrew well explain

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

wanna help with more

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sure

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

my next question is factoring binomial

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

the question is 144=-c^2 my answer is (c-12) (c-12)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Uh, unfortunately no.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This is a simple equation and not a polynomial

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

i got it (-c+12) (c+12)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, since c^2 = 144, you need to use the opposite of PEMDAS.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Basically, you should get 2 numbers, not 2 binomials.

OpenStudy (pokemon23):

|dw:1329099852515:dw|

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