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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can someone help with this please? (x+18)(x-17)(x+17)>0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We know the zeroes are -18, -17, 17. Let's test the intervals (-infinity, -18), (-18, -17), (-17, 17), (17, infinity)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Would the result be positive or negative if you had x=-19

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry, my computer crashed earlier. The result is negative.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so we can discard that interval, because a negative number is less than 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what about -17.5?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Again it is negative.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no, it's positive

OpenStudy (anonymous):

positive * negative * negative=positive

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, I'm not understanding then. Is it possible for you to step me through the problem, or a similar one so that I can understand the process?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, you know that a negative*positive =negative, positive*positive=positive, negative*negative=positive

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's all I'm doing here :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We have the zeros of the function because it is in factored form

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Where did you get -17.5? And what were you multiplying it with to make it a positive?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Look above, we're considering the intervals where the numbers can change signs

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We have the 3 zeroes, so we make all possible intervals using those zeros

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and select a random number from that interval to determine if using that number will make the entire expression positive or negative

OpenStudy (anonymous):

understand?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm getting there. So when you used -17.5, it was the random number?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We have the x-intercepts. Yes, -17.5 was a random number in the interval (-18,-17)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Because -17 and -18 are x-intercepts right next to each other, all values between them will either be above or below the x-axis (positive or negative)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay that makes sense.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright, we have the 4 intervals.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We've determined that (-infinity, -18) yielded a negative result, not part of the solution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(-18,-17) yielded positive, so -18<x<-17 is part of the solution. We have 2 more intervals.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What about a number in the interval (-17, 17)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That is a negative.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right, not part of the solution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what about (17, infinity)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Positive.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, now we have our answer. you know what it is?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It is either a solution set or all real numbers, but I'm not sure how to tell which.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Remember, we already found the answer by testing these intervals

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Any interval where the result was positive is part of the solution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh! So it is a solution set.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because every value in that interval will yield either positive or negative, no matter which random number you pick

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We don't include the actual numbers themselves when testing because we already know they are the x-intercepts, or zeros of the cubic function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So how would I post my answer? \[{x l-18,17} \] like that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Urgh it didn't put my brackets in

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Are you familiar with set-builder notation or interval notation? Either one is fine. I prefer interval notation.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's what i used above

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No I'm not, I use equation editor in MS word but that is all I know.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[(5, \infty)\]You've probably seen it plenty of times, set-builder looks like this: {x|x>5} Interval \[(5, \infty)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh yes I see. How do you get the character for the absolute line?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Shift backslash

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the one above the enter key

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh I see it now.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, because my solution is a set, would I write it as {x|x<-18,17}

OpenStudy (anonymous):

In set builder: {x|-18<x<-17 or x>17} Interval: \[(-18, -17)\text{U}(17, \infty)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The U stands for union between the intervals

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Recall that we had 2 intervals that satisfied the inequality

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x<-18 was not one of them

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x > -18 and x < -17 can be simplified to -18<x<-17

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So do you understand now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, I understand how we solved the problem yes. It still confuses me how I am supposed to answer. But I will try to the way you wrote it out in set builder.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do you usually express your solutions?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thats just it, this is for a fimal exam and I did these problems nine weeks ago. It is all done in MyMathLab so the program offers the correct format for you already. It is showing this for a solution set {x|__}

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so set-builder

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So I simply plug in -18<x<-17 or x>17 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And I can use the conjunction "or" within the set builder?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or is a disjunction, yes i believe you can use it in set-builder

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i assume someone will be reviewing your answers? they'll know what you mean

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, the program itself grades the exam, but I will do my best. Thank you so much for your time. You were very helpful, and I am glad that you didn't just give me the answer, I like to try and figure these things out, although I am not very good at it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

glad to help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you have a similar problem you'd like to practice with, i'll review it with you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't at the moment, but thank you for the offer :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

One more question, the answer is still -18 even though in the original equation it is a positive 18?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think I've confused myself again .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if (x+18)=0, what is the zero?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh zero has to be negative.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(-18+18)=0, x=-18

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, I pictured it on a number line in my head and then it made sense. Thank you again!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

YW

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