Can someone help with this please? (x+18)(x-17)(x+17)>0
We know the zeroes are -18, -17, 17. Let's test the intervals (-infinity, -18), (-18, -17), (-17, 17), (17, infinity)
Would the result be positive or negative if you had x=-19
Sorry, my computer crashed earlier. The result is negative.
ok so we can discard that interval, because a negative number is less than 0
what about -17.5?
Again it is negative.
no, it's positive
positive * negative * negative=positive
Okay, I'm not understanding then. Is it possible for you to step me through the problem, or a similar one so that I can understand the process?
Ok, you know that a negative*positive =negative, positive*positive=positive, negative*negative=positive
Yes :)
That's all I'm doing here :)
We have the zeros of the function because it is in factored form
Where did you get -17.5? And what were you multiplying it with to make it a positive?
Look above, we're considering the intervals where the numbers can change signs
We have the 3 zeroes, so we make all possible intervals using those zeros
and select a random number from that interval to determine if using that number will make the entire expression positive or negative
understand?
I'm getting there. So when you used -17.5, it was the random number?
We have the x-intercepts. Yes, -17.5 was a random number in the interval (-18,-17)
Because -17 and -18 are x-intercepts right next to each other, all values between them will either be above or below the x-axis (positive or negative)
Okay that makes sense.
Alright, we have the 4 intervals.
We've determined that (-infinity, -18) yielded a negative result, not part of the solution
(-18,-17) yielded positive, so -18<x<-17 is part of the solution. We have 2 more intervals.
What about a number in the interval (-17, 17)
That is a negative.
right, not part of the solution
what about (17, infinity)
Positive.
ok, now we have our answer. you know what it is?
It is either a solution set or all real numbers, but I'm not sure how to tell which.
Remember, we already found the answer by testing these intervals
Any interval where the result was positive is part of the solution
Oh! So it is a solution set.
yes
because every value in that interval will yield either positive or negative, no matter which random number you pick
We don't include the actual numbers themselves when testing because we already know they are the x-intercepts, or zeros of the cubic function
So how would I post my answer? \[{x l-18,17} \] like that?
Urgh it didn't put my brackets in
Are you familiar with set-builder notation or interval notation? Either one is fine. I prefer interval notation.
That's what i used above
No I'm not, I use equation editor in MS word but that is all I know.
\[(5, \infty)\]You've probably seen it plenty of times, set-builder looks like this: {x|x>5} Interval \[(5, \infty)\]
Oh yes I see. How do you get the character for the absolute line?
Shift backslash
the one above the enter key
Oh I see it now.
So, because my solution is a set, would I write it as {x|x<-18,17}
In set builder: {x|-18<x<-17 or x>17} Interval: \[(-18, -17)\text{U}(17, \infty)\]
The U stands for union between the intervals
Recall that we had 2 intervals that satisfied the inequality
x<-18 was not one of them
yes
x > -18 and x < -17 can be simplified to -18<x<-17
So do you understand now?
Well, I understand how we solved the problem yes. It still confuses me how I am supposed to answer. But I will try to the way you wrote it out in set builder.
how do you usually express your solutions?
Thats just it, this is for a fimal exam and I did these problems nine weeks ago. It is all done in MyMathLab so the program offers the correct format for you already. It is showing this for a solution set {x|__}
so set-builder
So I simply plug in -18<x<-17 or x>17 ?
And I can use the conjunction "or" within the set builder?
or is a disjunction, yes i believe you can use it in set-builder
i assume someone will be reviewing your answers? they'll know what you mean
Well, the program itself grades the exam, but I will do my best. Thank you so much for your time. You were very helpful, and I am glad that you didn't just give me the answer, I like to try and figure these things out, although I am not very good at it.
glad to help
:)
if you have a similar problem you'd like to practice with, i'll review it with you
I don't at the moment, but thank you for the offer :)
One more question, the answer is still -18 even though in the original equation it is a positive 18?
I think I've confused myself again .
if (x+18)=0, what is the zero?
Oh zero has to be negative.
(-18+18)=0, x=-18
Yeah, I pictured it on a number line in my head and then it made sense. Thank you again!
YW
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