Please, someone explain this to me; Solve for R in 1 equation (in terms of S and T and k): R is inversely proportional to S and R is directly proportional to the cube of T
r = t^3/s
in terms of t, s, AND k
actually i think it's: r = k*t^3/s
"Please, someone explain this to me;"
directly proportional means equal to pretty much.. So if a is directly proportional to b, then a=b
inversely proportional means equal to 1/ that number
r = k/s r = kt^3 I got this far but I'm not sure from here
No u just keep one constant
You are incorrect about inverse and direct direct: y = kx inverse: y = k/x
It's proportional to one and the inverse of the other at the same time.. I'm not incorrect, ignore the constant for now
why?
The constant is ALWAYS put all the way at the end
How come?
First you finish your equation, then you stick it on top.. unless the constant is initially given, because then when u multiply the values, u'll end up with k^2, which is still a constant, so it's still k
I mean just put it out in front all the way at the end
amistre i dunno how to explain this...
Oh, that makes sense, if you put it on both, then you would have 2 ks, is that what you are saying?
directly porportional is when the value of one increases the other decrease: x*y = 5 is directly porportional; if x gets big, y has to shtink to retain the same value
amistre probably has an explanation lol
wait really???
i didnt learn it that way
i learned direct both increased and inverse one increased as the other decreased
amistre directly proportional is x=y, ur equation would give x = 1/y
indirectly is when the values increase or decrease at the same time y/x = 5 is an indirect porportion since an increase in one results in the increase of the other to retain the same value
i could be hazy on it, so let me recheck the google :)
inversely proportional is x*y=constant
amistre i think you got it backwards
its possible :) but if so then youve got a pretty good bead on it
lol yea.. he prolly did this years ago
I just don't understand how to get one equation out of the two
just relate them to it in the same manner
will you show me?
All right listen: R = kT^3/S
What does: R is inversely proportional to S imply then? since your right lol
r = k/s
Inversely is 1/S
or k/s
good; and what does and R is directly proportional to the cube of T imply?
r = t^3
kt^3 sorry
then we put those toghter to form: \[r=k\frac{t^3}{s}\]
how exactly?
we just went over the how part
r is related to both s and t in these matters
manner
are you related to your mother and father?
but kt^3 = k/s kst^3 = k st^3 = r
Yes, I am. Hopefully
we are not equating k with k; we are relating how r is related to t and s
k is just a byproduct that makes the whole thing consistent
mother = father is what your trying to determine as an analogy :)
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stop equating the 2 parts and unite them under the constant of parent
I'm sorry
is mom = dad what I was doing, or what i need to be doing?
what you were doing, so stop it lol
okay, what am I trying to do?
r is related to s how? r is related to t how?
r = k/s r = kt^3
not "k"; just s and t "k" is not a relation to r, its a consequence of it
but isnt r a consequence of s and k?
as r changes, k stays the same so it of no relation as r changes both s and t change, they are related to r
Ah! Well worded! k always stays the same because it's a constant, but as one variable changes the other has to since k cant change!
yep
But now what do i do?
since r is related to s and t in some manner, combine the terms for s and t into their proper relations with r when mom and dad are in the same room, their relationship with you doesnt change does it?
aunt betty comes over for dinner does the family disintegrate?
no it does not.
does aunt betty = k?
then r keeps its same reltaion to s and t as it always has lol, aunt betty = some other relation to r that is not mentioned k is just the house, or dinig room, or whatever keeps the family in the same place packed together
r = k(relations)
if r doesnt = k/s then how would you write an equation for it, just replace it with a random constant? r = 1/s? then r = 1t^3?
r = 1/s is a stated relation; but we all know that 1/5 so we have a constant of variation that always allows the relation to stay solid
soo slow on here
I'm sorry I just don't understand, thanks for taking your time though. where'd you get 1/5?
does 3 = 1/5? was what i typed but got lost in the etheral void of openstudy
say when r = 3, s=5 what makes this relation solid?
no, so how do we write an equation for r in terms of s that excludes k?
the final result has a k so that the relations are consistent.
3 = 15/5 20 = 15/something else lol
well, if the constant of variation is given, you cant change the other two variables to not match up with it, they have to follow r=k/s, if you have 10 = 20/s, s has to be 2, if we have 10 = k/10, k has to be 100
the relations dont change; so pack everyone together in the same k(..) to keep it mathematically consistent and happy
10 to 10 isnt the proper relation then and its a fraud if you have to change the k
you cant change k though, its a constant
you have to change the variables to match up with it
right, so 10 to 10 is not a valid relation between r and s in that case since you had to change k to match it
yes
but how do you combine the relations? and why just randomly multiply k out in front?
when we have values for r and s and t then we can determine what the proper k will be, but until then we just use it as a genereal fill in
how do you know that k * combined relations = r?
it doesnt say that r is related to s only when t is not around; and when t is around s leaves so that r is related to t and such; it says that r is related to s and t together
in this manner as such and such
okay so I get the r = t^3/s, but how do you know where to put k?
k is just the constant that ties it all together so that no random false relations stick their head in at the family reunion it goes where its always gone; as a multiplier to keep the pease
It was not multiplied in r = k/s
Just forget about it. I don't think I'll get this. Thanks for your help and time.
I'll just teach myself by saying that r = k/s and r = kt^3 then wanting t somewhere in r = k/s, so asking myself what relation does k have with t, and saying it's multiplied by t^3 so r = kt^3/s, similarly, ks relation with s is k is divided by s so in r = kt^3 becomes r = kt^3/s. Not sure if that is the way to do it but I like that way.
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