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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Multiply and simplify. 4c^2/4c^2-32c+65*4c-16/2c please help me by showing the steps on how to do this. Thanks!
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
can you use some parentheses to clarify the question
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Sure
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[(4c^2/4c^2-32c+64)\times(4c-16/2c)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\frac{4c^2}{4c^2-32c+64}*\frac{4c-16}{2c}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes exactly
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
I'd first factor a 4 out of the 1st fraction
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So 1/-32c+64 ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Now the 1st denominator is easy to factor
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Oh I see. Let me see how far I get doing that.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i'm sorry actually the 4's would cancel, so you don't multiply the entire thing by 4
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\frac{4c^2}{4(c^2-8c+16)}*\frac{4(c-4)}{2c}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
can you work on it from there?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Let me try :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Do I multiply straight across? 4c^2*4(c-4)?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
not yet, factor the denominator of the 1st fraction first, you'll see why you shouldn't multiply yet
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Oh! As if it is a quadratic?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
4(c-4)^2 ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
right
OpenStudy (anonymous):
now you can start cancelling stuff
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\frac{4c^2}{4(c^2-8c+16)}*\frac{4(c-4)}{2c}=\frac{\cancel{4}c^2}{\cancel{4}\cancel{(c-4)}(c-4)}*\frac{4\cancel{(c-4)}}{2c}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
this can be further simplified
OpenStudy (anonymous):
now you multiply across
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you there moonie?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yeah I'm trying to do the math. :) 4c^2/2c^2-4 ?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
At this point we have this:
\[\frac{4c^2}{2c(c-4)}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Rob, thank you but the original equation was written incorrectly, Rickjbr is heping me get the original equation solved correctly.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Oh I see, I can't square the c's.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you can, but you would have to undo it for the next step, so it's pointless. Also,
2c(c-4)=2c^2-8c
OpenStudy (anonymous):
how did you get 2c^2-4?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Bad math... I was trying to use the distributive law but I didn't follow all the way through with it.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ah ok
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You always want to cancel out as many terms as you can before multiply anything.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Can you reduce the fraction we have at this point?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I think so...
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
2/-8c ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
no, walk me through how you got that
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Be cause 2c^2 will go into 4c^2 one time with a remainder of 2? (God I'm horrible at this)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
This is why i told you not to expand the fraction yet, because you can't reduce fractions with addition or subtraction signs in the middle
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\frac{4c^2}{2c(c-4)}\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
This is what we're working with right now
OpenStudy (anonymous):
OH!..... Okay let me try again.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Are you using this programs eqiation editor? (Just a side question)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So would I expand the numerator since it is squared and then try to cancel from there?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
the numerator can't be expanded
OpenStudy (anonymous):
What is 4/2?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So coefficients first then variables and exponents?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes, but everything has to be in factored form for you to divide and cancel. It is in factored form right now, so you can do that.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
rob, you should read the 5th post from the top :/
OpenStudy (anonymous):
making any progress?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Um, maybe... 4c^2/2c(c-4) = 2c^2/c(c-4) Can I use the distributive law on the denominator now?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
nope, there's some more cancelling to d o
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Is my equation correct so far?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes, it is equivalent
OpenStudy (anonymous):
What is
\[\frac{c^2}{c}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Do I divide 2 by -4?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
1/2?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
no you can't do that
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Properties of exponents, quotient rule:
\[\huge \frac{a^m}{a^n}=a^{m-n}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\huge \frac{c^2}{c^{1}}=c^{2-1}=c^1=c\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Oh, I didn't know I could use 1 as an exponent
OpenStudy (anonymous):
If that is the case then we are left with 2c/ (c-4) ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You can't touch anything inside of the parentheses because there are addition and subtraction symbols in there
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes, that's the final answer, no further factoring possible
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Omg that was worse then pulling a tooth. Thank you so much for your patience!
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you're welcome.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
1 is an implied exponent, nobody writes it because it's always there
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I understand. I just don't remember things like that. Okay well, I have four more problems to get figured out. Thank you again!
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Refer to the solution attachment.