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OpenStudy (eyust707):

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OpenStudy (eyust707):

solve: \[x^2 y'' + y' = 4x \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

try using bernoulli

OpenStudy (eyust707):

okay I have tried using the substitution p= y' = dy/dx ; dp/dx = y'' but ill take a look at that

OpenStudy (eyust707):

i dont think bernoulis works because we would need a y^n

OpenStudy (eyust707):

there may be a way to get it there but im not sure how

OpenStudy (amistre64):

burnnoodle is for a "y" part on the right i thought, or am i confusing names again

OpenStudy (eyust707):

=D

OpenStudy (amistre64):

divide of the x^2; and consider y'' and y' to be renamed as z' and z

OpenStudy (eyust707):

okay did that

OpenStudy (amistre64):

your just solving for a first order by looks then x^2 y'' + y' = 4x x^2 z' + z = 4x z' + x^-2 z = 4x^-1 {S} x^-2 dx = -x^-1 e^-1/x z = {S} 4x^-1 ....yada yada

OpenStudy (amistre64):

you solve for z then becasue z = y' int (z=y') ; int(z) = y

OpenStudy (eyust707):

i end up with this integral on the right hand side: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+%28x*e^x^-1%29^-1

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yeah, also see if itll go separable by chance

OpenStudy (eyust707):

I tried but couldn't figure out a way to separate it

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[x^2\frac{dz}{dt}+z=4x \] \[\frac{dz}{dt}+x^{-2}z=4x^{-1} \] yeah, doesnt look like itll pull out nicely

OpenStudy (eyust707):

I emailed my professor and this was our conversation: Hi Eric, Left with no other choice, we can express an anti-derivative for a function f(x) as the integral from a to x of f(t) dt + C. (You can choose any value for a, as long as you are careful about avoiding discontinuities of f.) Does that help? --Ben On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Eric wrote: Dr. Levitt I'm having trouble with the first reducible differential equation on the homework. Im probably just making a mistake but will you take a quick look and make sure there was not a typo. When i use the integrating factor I end up with an integral that is difficult to solve. The equation is: x^2 y'' + y' = 4x Thanks, Eric

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[e^{-x^{-1}}z=\int 4x^{-1}e^{-x^{-1}}dx\] \[e^{x}z=\int 4x^{-1}e^{x}dx\] \[e^{x}z=4e^xln(x)-\int 4x^{-1}e^{x}dx\] that might mean we can leave it as an integration for exactness as long as our interval is consistent

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[x^2 m' + m = 4x\] \[x^2 m' + m = 0\] \[m' +x^{-2} m = 0\] \[e^{-x^{-1}} m = c_1\] \[m = c_1e^{x^{-1}}\] might be a homogenous solution

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[\int (e^{1/x}=y')\to y=\]might be a little tricky as well

OpenStudy (amistre64):

we could turn it into a series expansion: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=e%5E%281%2Fx%29 \[\int 1+\sum_{n=1}^{inf}\frac{1}{n!}x^{-n}dx\] \[\sum_{n=0}^{inf}\frac{1}{n!(-n+1)}x^{-n+1}+C \] just a thought, prolly a useless stray thought

OpenStudy (amistre64):

might have to shave off one more term to get that off a x^-1 tho

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