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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Linear Algebra

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am looking at the problem lableled: A spanning set of R^3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It mentions that the vector equation produces the system that is in the picture. Then it goes on to say that the coefficent matrix for this system has a nonzero determinant , which ensures me that this system has a unique solution.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How did they go about finding the determiant?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

meaing how can they tell its a nonzero determinat ?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

just find the determinant like you normally would.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, so i'll use cofactor expansion

OpenStudy (zarkon):

that would work

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if the coeff matrix row reduces to 100 010 001 then we can be assured that the determinant is not zero if we had a row or column of zeros produced; and tried to take the expansion along that row or column of 000s we end up with a 0 determinant

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is there a faster way of determing whether a vector can be written as a linear combination of the vectors in a set?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

linear algebra is NOT about speed :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i understand, but this problem has like 4 subproblems, so i was thinking maybe there was a shortcut.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

(A|b) is usually the quickest method by hand; augment A next to b to produce (I|x)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if we had the problem itself we could see it better :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let upload it.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

to be fair, Zarkon can see all. Me? I have to stab blindly at it till I hit a vein

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats sounds horrible

OpenStudy (amistre64):

math is a beast ....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no that part of you stabbing yourself, math i can handle

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay here it comes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

lol , not stabbing myself ... just fighting with the mathical beast, I have to find its weak point before it finds mine

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its number 3, i just wanna do if there is a quiker way to do it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats all

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i got a way of doing it

OpenStudy (amistre64):

2 2 2 copy columns 1 and 2 0 4 -12 7 5 13 2 2 2 2 2 0 4 -12 0 4 7 5 13 7 5 now multiply along the diagonals 56 -120 0 2 2 2 2 2 0 4 -12 0 4 7 5 13 7 5 103 -168 0 subtract the top numbers from the bottom (103 -168) - (56 -120) = determinant

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay thanks peppy

OpenStudy (amistre64):

youre welcome .... rango i assume lol

OpenStudy (amistre64):

as long as the determinant aint a zero, we know the columns are linearly INdependant and since they are all R^3 compliant we can create all the vectors in R^3 with them

OpenStudy (anonymous):

your clever

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i have moments of lucidity :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do get the determinant of a 3 by 4 matrix

OpenStudy (zarkon):

you can't.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the how do i find whether the determineat of that matrix is non zero:

OpenStudy (amistre64):

A 3x4 matrix would imply that you have a redundant vector in its midsts. row reduce it to find the pivot point to indicate which columns produce the most efficient span and eliminate the others to create a basis to play with

OpenStudy (amistre64):

3 rows 4 columns ... yeah, thats right :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its a coefficent matrix so it wouldnt include the 4th row, ima dummie

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