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OpenStudy (turingtest):

Could I get a quick double-check on this integral?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

\[\int e^{\sin x}({x\cos^3x-\sin x\over\cos^2x})dx=\int e^{\sin x}x\cos xdx+\int e^{\sin x}({-\sin x\over\cos^2x})dx\]integrate each one by parts individually the first integral:\[u=x;dv=e^{\sin x}\cos x\]\[\int e^{\sin x}x\cos xdx=xe^{\sin x}-\int e^{\sin x}dx\]for the second integral\[u=e^{\sin x};dv={-\sin x\over\cos^2x}\]\[\int e^{\sin x}({-\sin x\over\cos^2x})dx=-e^{\sin x}\sec x+\int e^{\sin x}dx\]add the two integrals together and you see that \(\int e^{\sin x}dx\) cancels, so we get\[\int e^{\sin x}({x\cos^3x-\sin x\over\cos^2x})dx=\int e^{\sin x}x\cos xdx+\int e^{\sin x}({-\sin x\over\cos^2x})dx\]\[=xe^{\sin x}-e^{\sin x}\sec x+C=e^{\sin x}(x-\sec x)+C\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:)

OpenStudy (precal):

can you use wolframalpha to check it?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I have not been trusting the wolf recently... it gives the answer but not the process, so I am more concerned with seeing if I have committed an error in the logic of the process plus I wanna see a better way to do it if possible

OpenStudy (turingtest):

wolf has been wrong on many occasions as well

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wolf can be wrong when input is entered wrong. the chance that wolf is wrong inside its engine is nearly zero.

OpenStudy (precal):

good to know. I just discovered wolf and I use it as a double check. I hope someone can help you find an easier way to do the problem. Integration by parts looks like the easiest way to do this one.

OpenStudy (precal):

wolf is a program. Programs can be wrong that is why they have to be debugged.

OpenStudy (turingtest):

@GT I can provode you with a few of wolf's mistakes it messes up a lot with DE's and FoolForMath has found quite a few mistakes in other types of problems

OpenStudy (zarkon):

your answer is correct.

OpenStudy (turingtest):

Thanks Zarkon :D here is an example of wolf's failure @GT http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/4f0259eee4b01ad20b54445d

OpenStudy (turingtest):

here is wolf giving a correct answer to an integral with the most moronic process imaginable http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integral%28csc%28x%29%29%5E%2810%29%28cot%28x%29%29%5E3dx click show steps and have a laugh

OpenStudy (precal):

Technology has its limitations that is why it will never replace the human brain.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It is not the answer. The result is "computation timed out". It is too complex for the computer to solve in 10 second limit they have.

OpenStudy (turingtest):

the answer to the link is correct, but click 'show steps' I can do that problem in 3 or 4 steps wolf did it in like 150 lol

OpenStudy (precal):

How about overflow on the graphing calculator? \[\frac{9^\left( 2001 \right)}{9^\left( 2000 \right)}\]

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I don't even use graphing calculators very much but that problem is trivial anyway...

OpenStudy (precal):

Same concept, technology has its limitations

OpenStudy (turingtest):

indeed :)

OpenStudy (zarkon):

my calculator does that with no problems

OpenStudy (turingtest):

wolf should too I think...

OpenStudy (zarkon):

any caclulator with a cas will find it easy

OpenStudy (turingtest):

but certainly the other examples I provided are sufficient to demonstrate wolfs limits plus, wolf does things like ALWAYS use l'hospital for limits, ALWAYS use reduction formulas for trig integrals; things that are completely illogical from a human thought standpoint

OpenStudy (zarkon):

yes...wolf definitely has its limitations...I have seen other mistakes it has made. Use Mathematica if you have it available.

OpenStudy (turingtest):

yeah, as soon as I feel grown-up enough ;)

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