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OpenStudy (aravindg):

how to solve the foll set of equations?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

and what is that?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

10=a^2+b^2

OpenStudy (aravindg):

and (9/a^2)-(4/b^2)=1

OpenStudy (turingtest):

as a system?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

well solve for a and b

OpenStudy (aravindg):

show me how

OpenStudy (turingtest):

that means as a system...

OpenStudy (turingtest):

\[10=a^2+b^2\]\[a^2=10-b^2\]plug that into the other eqn\[{9\over10-b^2}-{4\over b^2}=1\]this should be solvable for b, from which we can get a

OpenStudy (aravindg):

but we will get a^4 in denominator ??is there any easier way ?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

a quadratic equation in b^2 huh ..

OpenStudy (aravindg):

srry b^4

OpenStudy (turingtest):

so make it quadrtatic in b^2 that is solve ax^2+bx+c=0 with x=b^2 then take the sqrt

OpenStudy (aravindg):

oh but isnt that lengthy??? any easier way?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

use wolframalpha for calculation

OpenStudy (mani_jha):

Try multiplying the second equation by a^2*b^2. Then multiply the first equation by 4 and add both.

OpenStudy (turingtest):

Mani has an interesting idea, I'll check it out :)

OpenStudy (aravindg):

ya me too let me check out i knew there was a easy way out

OpenStudy (mani_jha):

Uh-oh, Sorry folks. You'll still get a quadratic in two variables. :\

OpenStudy (aravindg):

:P

OpenStudy (turingtest):

\[9b^2-40+4b^2=10b^2-b^4\]\[b^4-b^2-40=0\]let \(x=b^2\)we have\[x^2-x-40=0\]\[(x+4)(x-5)=0\]\[x=\left\{ -4,5 \right\}\]now back to terms of b....

OpenStudy (turingtest):

hm... about that -4... is \(b=2i\) or \(b=\pm2i\) or... that I'm not sure, but I guess by the fundamental theorem of algebra it must be the latter

OpenStudy (turingtest):

so I say\[b=\left\{ -2i,2i,-\sqrt5,\sqrt5 \right\}\]any objections? I can't say I'm positive everything here is perfect...

OpenStudy (aravindg):

oh this is too long?

OpenStudy (mani_jha):

b=+-2i probably. Because we've to get a total of four solutions from, this biquadratic equation..

OpenStudy (turingtest):

oh I didn't factor that equation right how did you guys let me get away with that?! I blame you lol

OpenStudy (aravindg):

well my text says solving 1 and 2 we get a^2=5 and b^2=5

OpenStudy (mani_jha):

Which equation?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

well the two original eqns lol

OpenStudy (turingtest):

a few posts up\[x^2-x-40\neq(x+4)(x-5)\]

OpenStudy (aravindg):

lol

OpenStudy (aravindg):

no othr way??

OpenStudy (turingtest):

arvind I don't think that treating b^2 as x and solving it quadratically is a hard concept, but it looks like the answer is going to be ugly what does wolf say? let me check

OpenStudy (aravindg):

but my text says a^@=5 and b^2=5

OpenStudy (turingtest):

well my work agrees that b^2=5, though I'm not sure how...

OpenStudy (aravindg):

hmm..its cnfusing

OpenStudy (turingtest):

did I make an algebra mistake? Mani do you get the same thing as me from the sub?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

it's not that hard to do the sub... 1)\[10=a^2+b^2\]2)\[\frac9{a^2}-\frac4{b^2}=1\]from 1) we get 3)\[a^2=10-b^2\]which we sub into 2) to get\[\frac9{10-b^2}-\frac4{b^2}=1\]let \(x=b^2\) and we get 4)\[\frac9{10-x}-\frac4{x}=1\]algebra:\[9x-40+4x=x(10-x)\]\[x^2-x-40=0\]make sense so far guys?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

ys

OpenStudy (turingtest):

so now I guess we can use the quadratic formula or complete the square, eh? then we can let a^2=y and find a^2 that way first lets find x I guess,... i.e. b^2

OpenStudy (aravindg):

but i am cnfused with taking double roots

OpenStudy (aravindg):

first solving x we get 2 values

OpenStudy (turingtest):

let's cross that bridge when we come to it, and for now just find x

OpenStudy (aravindg):

then for both the values we need to find a and b

OpenStudy (aravindg):

i am ready wt abt u mani??

OpenStudy (aravindg):

hmm... there's a prob my mom calling for dinner will be back in 15 min

OpenStudy (turingtest):

mani's idea led to the same problem we are having, so only Zarkon knows what we should really be doing in any event, \(b^2\neq5\) so there must be a typo, or your book is wrong, or...?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

dunno i am all confused

OpenStudy (aravindg):

actually the qn was like this

OpenStudy (turingtest):

you say you know that b^2 is supposed to be 5 and a^2=5 as well ?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

yeah pls, what is the \(actual question\)?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

find eqn of hyperbola with foci (0+-root10),passing through 2,3

OpenStudy (aravindg):

u will see that we reach the 2 eqns

OpenStudy (aravindg):

thr i became stuck so i came here

OpenStudy (turingtest):

oh I would have to review a bunch of stuff for that... I really don't know how I can help now, I have class soon

OpenStudy (aravindg):

hmm.. this is bad condition i hav no option than leaving that qn

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