Domain of the function :
\[f(x)=\sqrt{\log_{10}(\frac{5x-x^2}{4}) }\]
5x−x 2>0
How?
what do you mean?
a.[1,4] B.(1,4) C.(0,5) D.[0,5} I mean can you show your work..
5x>x2 5>x so i would say [0,5] since either logarithm or sqrt are not defind for negative values.
1,4 are the roots in the reals.
diya how come option c and d are same
they are not
its not same (1,5) and [1,5]
Answer is A ..
\[(\log_{10}(5x-x ^{2})/4 )\ge0\] \[(5x-x ^{2}/4)>0\] Intersection of the two solutions gives the answer.
oops, you right. My bad
\[\sqrt{\log_{10}(\frac{5x-x^2}{4}) }=0\] \[\frac{\sqrt{\ln (\frac14(5x-x^2))}}{\sqrt{\ln(10)}}=0\] \[\sqrt{\ln(\frac14(5x-x^2))}=0\] \[\ln(\frac14(5x-x^2))=0\] \[\frac14(5x-x^2)=1\] \[5x-x^2=4\] \[x^2-5x=-4\] solve that down u will find x=1 x=4 are the solutions, which is what I said the roots were these, and the answer is A.
^ that said, the function is really interesting in the complex plane.
I dont understand what are you doing with the 10, I thought it was the base of the log but it seems you are taking it as something different
How did you get \[\frac{\sqrt{\ln (\frac14(5x-x^2))}}{\sqrt{\ln(10)}}=0\] Sorry i forgot logs ..
i switched to ln cause it was easier to type, the bases really make no difference at all. but to get to the double radicals, you start by dividing by 1/sqrt(log(10))
If the base of the log is 10, then you should not write it even. So I dont understand the 10 there. Is the exercise good written?
Hm Yeah is given with base 10 ,But how does it make any difference ? base 10 or ln both are same ..@carolinekuhn
log base e is the natural log. What i did was this: log_10 (x)=ln(x)/ln(10)
ok
the first few steps were just to move to ln because logs not in base e are normally considered to be more complex than natural logs
\[\frac14(5x-x^2)=1\] how did you get this ? you took ln to the other side?
i took both sides to the e^() e^(ln(x)) = x and e^0 = 1
if you choose to stay with log_10 10^(log_10(x)) = x 10^0=1 it doesnt matter.
Oh yeah ok
You need that the whole expression is positive, because of the square root and then for the log to be positive the first condition is that argument of a log can only be positive, so you need to solve where \[5x-x^2/4 >0\]
Greater than zero or equal to zero ?which one should i use ?
@carolinekuhn that is extraneous to the derivation--if you happen to get results that fall outside that after derivation (ie: you check your answers and they are complex) then you must do that. In this case, the aforementioned derivation will allow you to determine all the real roots.
over the reals: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot+%5Csqrt%7B%5Clog_%7B10%7D%28%285x-x%5E2%29%2F%284%29%29+%7D%3D0
Can you tell me why we are taking [1,4] instead of (1,4) ?
I always get these confused, so i might be off on this.. but i believe [ and ] mean inclusive ( and ) mean non-inclusive that is to say: [1,4] means exactly 1 and 4 but (1,4) means close to but not including 1 or 4 [1,4) would be to include 1 but not 4 (but be very close to 4) unless I have this whole thing backwards again >.<
Ok thanks :D you're right and one more thing Why are we taking equal to zero instead of greater than zero ?
If you include the values then the argument would be 0 and that is not possible. So it shall be (1,4) I believe
The argument of a logarithm is never 0
But the answer given in my book is [1,4]
=0 will get you the roots (where the function crosses the x axis) because of the type of function, we knew it had to be a downward parabola (in the reals--due to sqrt and fraction) and we knew it would be contained therein (due to log) so from what we knew there--we knew to only look for the 2 roots for the domain.
oh yes I am cheking with 1 and 4 the result is 1 so you can include them. [1,4] is the answer
Ok Thank you so much :)
Diya, if you get this problem in a competitive you can use the options instead of the whole process ;)
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