well would help if i gave you guys the right equation
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[2x^2-1/x\]
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OpenStudy (diyadiya):
Yes still the answer is 1- sqqrt2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[(2(\sqrt{2}/2)^2-1)/\sqrt{2}/2\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thats what i need solved
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[(4(\sqrt{2}/2)-2)/\sqrt{2}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oops squared
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[4(2/4)-2/\sqrt{2}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
which comes out to 0 for me
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so i assume i did something wrong
OpenStudy (diyadiya):
oh ok
\[\frac{(2x)^2-1}{x}\]\[\frac{(2 \times \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}})^2-1}{ \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}}\]\[(4 \times 1/2 \ -1)\sqrt{2}\]\[=\sqrt{2}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
its only the x squared
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
not 2x
OpenStudy (diyadiya):
\[\frac{2(x)^2-1}{x}\]is this the equation?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
OpenStudy (diyadiya):
It can't be because it gives zero unless zero is the answer
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thats what i was thinking
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
but the relative minimum given by the book is
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[(\sqrt{2}/2, 2\sqrt{2})\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
which means the f(sqrt2/2) somehow is not 0
OpenStudy (diyadiya):
Wait \[x=\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2} \ or \ \frac{2}{\sqrt{2}}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
was 1/sqrt2 but rationalized is sqrt2/2
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OpenStudy (diyadiya):
i'm getting the same answer
sorry!
once again check your question
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok ill go through the entire problem with you
OpenStudy (diyadiya):
ok
OpenStudy (diyadiya):
wait
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i have to find the critical numbers of f(x)=2x+1/x using the first derivative test
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OpenStudy (diyadiya):
Ok then its different
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so first critical number is 0 because f(x) is undefinedat 0
OpenStudy (anonymous):
then i find the derivative
OpenStudy (diyadiya):
Wait
OpenStudy (diyadiya):
i dont know much about this ..relative minimum
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh im sure i got this part right
OpenStudy (anonymous):
2x/=1/x=(2x^2+1)/x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
first derivative
OpenStudy (anonymous):
(x(4x)-(2x^2+1))/X^2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
(4x^2-2x*2-1)/x^2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
(2x^2-1)/x^2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thats the first derivative
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so 2x-1=0
OpenStudy (anonymous):
2x^2-1=0 oops
OpenStudy (anonymous):
x^2=1/2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
x=+/-1/sqrt2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so critical numbers = 0,-sqrt2/2, and sqrt2/2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
0 is a vertical asymtope so its not a min or max
OpenStudy (anonymous):
but by the first derivative test
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i can see the interval ( -infinity, -sqrt2/2) is increasing which tells me -sqrt2/2 is the max
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OpenStudy (diyadiya):
i don't understand this ..sorry
But derivative of 2x+1/x=(2x^2-1)/x^2 right?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
the interval (sqrt2/2, infinty) is decreasing which means minimum
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes it is
OpenStudy (anonymous):
but since crit numbers = 0 or undefined
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you set the numerator to 0 to find crit numbers
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
and since x=0 would make the denominator 0 that would be undefined
OpenStudy (anonymous):
hince the 3 critical numbers
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so this far i am correct
OpenStudy (anonymous):
now i need the y values for my max and min
OpenStudy (anonymous):
which means i plug my crit numbers into f(x)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so i have to solve for f(sqrt2/2) and f(-sqrt2/2)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
f(x)= 2x+1/x
OpenStudy (diyadiya):
Ok so\[2x+ \frac{1}{x}= 2 \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}+\frac{1}{1/\sqrt{2}}=\sqrt{2}+\sqrt{2}=2\sqrt{2}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
which equals (2x^2-1)/x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
well common denominator would be x
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so 2x(x)/x +1/x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
(2x^2+1)/x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
now plug in \[x=\sqrt{2}/2; x=-\sqrt{2}/2\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
and the answers in the book i verified via cramster and calcchat.com
OpenStudy (diyadiya):
But in your question f(x) was \[2x+ \frac{1}{x}\]thats how you found derivative to be \[\frac{2x^2-1}{x^2}\]
i'm sorry if i'm wrong
i have no idea about this i'm just trying
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
no those two are equal
OpenStudy (anonymous):
that just combining via common denominator
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh wait that is the derivative
OpenStudy (anonymous):
but we plug the crit numbers back into f(x) to find y
OpenStudy (anonymous):
not the first derivative
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OpenStudy (diyadiya):
Yes when we plug into f(x)\[2x+ \frac{1}{x}= 2 \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}+\frac{1}{1/\sqrt{2}}=\sqrt{2}+\sqrt{2}=2\sqrt{2}\]
OpenStudy (callisto):
I'm so confused... Is f(x) = (2x^2 -1)/x or f(x) = (2x^2 +1)/x or f(x) = 2x^2 + (1/x) or f(x) = 2x^2 - (1/x)?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
and f(x) = (2x^2+1)/x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
or 2x+1/x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
both of those are the same
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OpenStudy (diyadiya):
ok so when we plug in 1/sqrt2 to f(x) we get 2sqrt2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok
OpenStudy (anonymous):
2(1/sqrt2)+1/1/sqrt2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
2/2sqrt +sqrt2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
2sqrt2/2+sqrt2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
=2sqrt2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thats right thanks
OpenStudy (diyadiya):
welcome :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
and now the negative
OpenStudy (anonymous):
must equal -2sqrt2
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OpenStudy (callisto):
It's so messy here ... I dunno if this is sth you want 'cause i don't even know the question