Calculus Help!! Find the sum of the series \[\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} 8^{n}/(9^{n}n!)\]
i got 0 but it is incorrect!!
use ratio test?
first of all you have (8/9)^n
yes
it's a converging series ... but sum is obviously not zero.
cant be zero, plug in a few terms LOL
i got\[\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\] 8/9(n+1)
no thats just a condition to make sure it does not diverge
so it is not equal to sum?
no, the limit is just the limit of the sequence terms. not adding them
but how should i start with for adding them?
suppose your sequence is {1/2^n} , n=1,2,3... so your sequence is 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, ... lim (1/2^n) =0, does the series (the sum of the sequence terms) equal zero? of course not!!! 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + ... clearly is not zero the question is, does it diverge ?
it diverges!!
does it? how do you know
no it doesnt diverge, that is a geometric series , it converges
i think the answer should be 9,am i right?
no!!sorry!!
is it should be a/(1-r)
The answer is e^(8/9) e^x = Sum[ x^n/n! , {n,0, Infinity]] x = 8/9
Thanks!!
but is it you can only get it when you knew some of the patterns of the functions?
somewhat seem to me like e times geometric progression of 8/9
since it is less than 1 ... it is definitely going to be less than e
it makes sense but in this case,we have to know e^x pattern in order to get this question?
we know that 1+1+1/2+1/3!+1/4! = e +1
okay!!
also we know (8/9)^t is a geometric progression
okay!!i think i got it!!Thanks everyone=))
still we haven't calculated the value yet ... we have just deduced that it's less than e
but is it you can only get it when you knew some of the patterns of the functions? Yes
i put e^(8/9)...according to @eliassaab and it makes sense now.since the sum of the e^x is e^x/n!
e^x = Sum[ x^n/n! , {n,0, Infinity]]
yeah ... he's right
ohh
elia, is there a test you can use to see if this converges
that was pretty cloever, i wouldnt have thought of that
tests are lot easier than fiding sum, use comparison test ... for best
@perl you can use the ratio test.
right, this was a stronger result
(8/9)^t/n! < 1/n! since 1/n! converges, the LHS must also converge
you must know the patterns first!!
but then , how do you prove series 1/n! converges?
is that using ratio test?
it's a standard value 1/n! = e
true
@experimentX you still need the ratio test to show that 1/n! converges
it's a standard value 1/n! = e Sum[ 1/$n!, {n,0, Infinity] =e
well, yes ... there it goes. 1/n!/1/(n+1)! -> 0 as n->inf
so in other words, you can prove that series 1/n! converges. it turns out that it equals e
If you use the ratio test with the original series, you do not need to do it again.
yeah that's right too ...
eliassab, i wanted to ask you about last question. it is sufficient to know that limit of f(x) exists at x =0. you dont need continuity there
@perl yes.
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