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OpenStudy (he66666):

How do you solve this integral? I tried many times but it doesn't work... I want to use the integration by parts.

OpenStudy (he66666):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when substituting, i think you may have forgotten to substitute e^x

OpenStudy (he66666):

Were you referring to the notes that were written on the question? because I know it's correct and I double-checked multiple times but the integration seems to go on forever..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is this the answer ?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

int by parts might be it derive x and integrate the rest

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[\int x\ \frac{e^x}{(1+e^x)^{1/2}}dx=x\ 2(1+e^x)^{1/2}-\int 2(1+e^x)^{1/2}dx \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

looks weird in wolfram

OpenStudy (he66666):

the answer is -4+20(In2)-6In3

OpenStudy (he66666):

@amistre64 Yes, I used the integration by parts but it went on forever..

OpenStudy (he66666):

I did u = 1 + e^x though

OpenStudy (amistre64):

then what does x equal in terms of u?

OpenStudy (he66666):

x = Inu, I think?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if we let u=e^x; then dx = du/u and x = ln(u) would be right

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if u = 1+e^2; then x=ln(u-1)

OpenStudy (he66666):

Yes, I'm following

OpenStudy (amistre64):

u = 1+e^x du = e^x dx ; dx = du/e^x \[\frac{xe^x}{u^{1/2}e^x}du\] \[\frac{x}{u^{1/2}}du\] x = ln(u-1) \[\frac{ln(u-1)}{u^{1/2}}du\] might be workable

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[\int ln(u-1)u^{-1/2}du=ln(u-1)\ 2u^{1/2}-2\int \frac{u^{1/2}}{(u-1)}du\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

oh yeah, the wolf proves this thing is not just a simple working

OpenStudy (he66666):

So do I do integration by parts again for the second term?

OpenStudy (he66666):

Cause I did that and it went on forever

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the wolf starts out using u = sqrt(1+e^x)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

du = e^x/2sqrt(1+e^x) dx 2sqrt(1+e^x)/e^x du = dx 2u/e^x du = dx \[\frac{2uxe^x}{ue^x}du=2xdu\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

u = sqrt(1+e^x) u^2 = 1+e^x ln(u^2-1) = x

OpenStudy (amistre64):

u^2-1 = (u-1)(u+1) ln((u-1)(u+1)) = ln(u-1) + ln(u+1) \[\int 2ln(u-1)+\int 2ln(u+1)\] maybe

OpenStudy (he66666):

Thanks, I'll try that

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