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OpenStudy (callisto):

Trigo problem #3

OpenStudy (callisto):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

good afternoon :)

OpenStudy (callisto):

o.o How do you know it's afternoon?.......

OpenStudy (experimentx):

it's morning here ... and haven't slept.

OpenStudy (callisto):

@experimentX You rarely sleep :P

OpenStudy (experimentx):

how do you know?? i sleep in the afternoon.

OpenStudy (callisto):

o.o I remember you said something like 'it's 5:30am here and I'm planning to sleep' in a post. But about 4 hours later, you went online.

OpenStudy (experimentx):

haha .. 10am right now.

OpenStudy (callisto):

So..2 hours difference. Any ideas on how to solve the problem?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

not really ... thinking.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its A 15 degrees

OpenStudy (callisto):

It's not A

OpenStudy (callisto):

Sorry, breakfast first. Can't think when I'm hungry :S

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh let me check again my solution

OpenStudy (callisto):

Back, do you need the answer first?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

no ... i think i would like to do see this problem for now. http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/4f87af5ee4b0505bf0871b19

OpenStudy (callisto):

Take your time

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

I've managed to show that it's not 15, but no more progress so far.

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

And less than 75, but that doesn't rally help us.

OpenStudy (callisto):

At least we can sort out one of the answers now :)

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

I'm gonna say 50 degrees.

OpenStudy (callisto):

Hmm, if the solution is correct, then your answer is not correct...Sorry :(

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

I have reduced the upper bound to 45. So the angle must be less than 45 degrees.

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

So it must be B or C.

OpenStudy (callisto):

@KingGeorge Right~ How did you do that???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

angle DAC + angle ADE = 75 degrees ..

OpenStudy (callisto):

Got it

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

I extended line AB along with line CD until they met at point F. Then I extended line BC some undefined amount. Then I drew a line from F perpendicular to AB so that it intersected line BC at point G. With some triangles, you get that angle BGF is 30 degrees. Then draw a line from G to A. The angle of BGA must be less than 30 degrees. By extending line AD, and doing some algebraic manipulation of variables, I got that our desired angle must be less than 45 degrees.

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

Namely, you can draw a line from D to G. Let angle ADE=x, angle CGF=x', and angle CDG=y. Then we have the relations \(x+y=120\) and \(x'+y=105\). Thus, \(x-x'=15\) since \(x' < 30\), this implies \(x<45\).

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

I'm not sure how to prove it's either B or C, but if I had to guess, I would say B.

OpenStudy (callisto):

it's B :)

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

Given that, I would have to assume the easiest proof somehow involves proving triangle BEC is similar triangle ACD.

OpenStudy (callisto):

Hmm thanks... I think this time I really have to ask my teacher. Thank you so much!!!!!

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

Duh. I see an easy way now. Hold on for two minutes.

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

We know from hypothesis that BC=AC and that EC=DC. Also, it's given that angle BCE=45. Since angle ECD is 60, we know that angle ACD=45. Thus, we have a Side-Angle-Side to prove triangles BEC and ACD are congruent. Hence, angle ADC=angle BEC=95 degrees. 95=60=35 QED

OpenStudy (callisto):

@KingGeorge You're so smart!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you so much!!!!!

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

You're welcome. Time for bed (for me) :)

OpenStudy (callisto):

Night :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@KingGeorge , good job man...

OpenStudy (callisto):

@dpaInc agree :)

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