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OpenStudy (anonymous):

does anyone want to teach me Multivariable Calculus? :P

OpenStudy (amistre64):

you know what you did to x in calc 1 and 2? now do it to y and z

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im good with matrices and all that. it's when it comes a part of vectors that i'm not understanding really well

OpenStudy (amistre64):

|dw:1334382554391:dw|

OpenStudy (amistre64):

vector just point in a direction

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait, ill show u

OpenStudy (amistre64):

good, casue i aint none to goog at mindreading :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

... or typing lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm in the same position! Some teacher failed me along the way in the vector department!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

given vectors a=2xi+2xj+xk, b=xi-2xj+2xk and c=2xi-xj-2xk show that {a,b,c} is a negative orthogonal base for x<0

OpenStudy (amistre64):

an orthogonal base is such that each vector is orthogonal to each other

OpenStudy (amistre64):

since x is a common factor of everyting; we can ignore it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for wich value(s) of x, will {a,b,c} be an orthornomal base?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

a.b =2xi+2xj+xk, xi-2xj+2xk ----------- 2 - 4 + 2 = 0 b.c=2xi-xj -2xk xi-2xj+2xk ----------- 2 + 2 - 4 = 0 a.c =2xi+2xj+xk, xi-2xj+2xk ----------- 2 - 4 + 2 = 0 so it is orthonormal

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i did that, but when it comes to the second part i get lost.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

and since x is just a common "scalar" id assume x can be anything; but maybe zero since people hate zeros

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got this:

OpenStudy (amistre64):

" Moreover, they are all required to have length one" http://mathworld.wolfram.com/OrthonormalBasis.html

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[||a||=\sqrt{4x^2+4x^2+x^2}=\sqrt{9x^2}=3x\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

looks like x needs to be the 1/|...| yeah, that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i did it for all 3 vectors and they all were 3x

OpenStudy (amistre64):

x is the scalar that makes them go unit i believe; which means the x = 1 over magnitude

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so since ||a||=||b||=||c||=3x=1 ---> x=1/3

OpenStudy (amistre64):

x is not part of the length; its factored out and eqauted to the reciprocal of the magnitude

OpenStudy (amistre64):

each vector has the same basic components so they are going to have the same lengths <2,2,1> ; sqrt(4+4+1) = sqrt(9) = 3 x = 1/3 yep

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there's a third part :X

OpenStudy (amistre64):

and the negative is just -1/3 right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find the coordinates to v in the orthornomal base obtained, in wich v in the canonical base has coordinates (1,-2,-3)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

now your just making up words :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im sorry, its in portuguese, i'm translating :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or trying anyway

OpenStudy (amistre64):

standard basis perhaps?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeees

OpenStudy (amistre64):

row reduce your vector basis next to this new vector from the standard bases

OpenStudy (amistre64):

how should we define our vectors in the basis? what should our x y and z parts correlate to?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

or does it matter?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i did it like this

OpenStudy (amistre64):

it matters; switching columns of a matrix alters things; switching rows doent

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for the first vector and i did the same to the other 2

OpenStudy (amistre64):

v1=2,2,1 v2=1,-2,2 v3=2,-1,-2 \[\frac{1}{3}\begin{vmatrix}v_1&v_2&v_3\\2&1&2\\2&-2&-1\\1&2&-2\end{vmatrix}\ \begin{vmatrix}c_1\\c_2\\c_3\end{vmatrix}=\begin{vmatrix}1\\-2\\-3\end{vmatrix}\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

your vectors need to be put in columns, not rows

OpenStudy (amistre64):

multiply both sides by 3 to get rid of the scalar

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ooh yeah

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[RREF\begin{vmatrix}2&1&2&|&3\\2&-2&-1&|&-6\\1&2&-2&|&-9\end{vmatrix}\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the left goes to identity and the right goes to the coord vector in the basis

OpenStudy (anonymous):

got it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

guess im not as bad as i thought? at least i got the first 2 parts correct :p and thanks for explaining the rest :))

OpenStudy (amistre64):

youre welcome :)

OpenStudy (rogue):

I'd like to learn multi-variate as well to get a head start on next year, but I'm not a fan of matrices and vectors :(

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