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OpenStudy (callisto):

Coordinate geometry (LQ) #2 ( quite a cute one :) )

OpenStudy (callisto):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is this your question paper???

OpenStudy (callisto):

Past paper

OpenStudy (callisto):

Don't worry. The questions I've been asking are NOT homework. I do them as practice

OpenStudy (thomas5267):

Not even a single clue how to do that.

OpenStudy (thomas5267):

17a i should be \((x-\frac{1}{2}p)^2+y^2=(\frac{1}{2}p)^2\)

OpenStudy (callisto):

@thomas5267 agreed :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For b. Satisfy (a,b) in the equation of the circle. You get: \[a^2 + b^2 - ap = 0 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=> \[a^2 +b^2 = ap\] => \[(\sqrt{(a^2 + b^2)}) ^2 = a * p \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=> \[OS^2 = OR * OP\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And OQcos(Angle POQ) is OR

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Which proves it.

OpenStudy (callisto):

o.o I did it in another way.. OQ cos∠POQ = OR Join OS and SR ΔSOP~ΔROS (AAA) OS OP -- = -- RO OS OS^2 = OP x RO = OPxOQ cos∠POQ

OpenStudy (callisto):

OS OP -- = -- (corr. sides, ~Δs) RO OS

OpenStudy (callisto):

but good answer! @siddhantsharan I always don't know how to use previous results :(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

HAha. Your way is pretty tidy and neat. Works good!

OpenStudy (callisto):

lol I missed the proof of similar triangles though. Don't want to type so much :(

OpenStudy (thomas5267):

Very clever method! @siddhantsharan

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Who does, right? 2nd one is pretty straightforward. Drop perpendicularFrom C to AB ( sOme K) Then By AA Prove ACK and AEB similar.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@thomas5267 Thanks !

OpenStudy (callisto):

Do you mean (bi)?

OpenStudy (callisto):

For (bi) Since BC = diameter of the circle ∠BEC =90 (∠s in semi-circle), that is BE⊥AC So, BE is the height of the ΔABC

OpenStudy (thomas5267):

I only know that \(\angle CFB=\angle CGA\) . Help Please!

OpenStudy (callisto):

Hmm..If it says using (a), perhaps we can compare them? C=O B=P A=Q D=R F=S perhaps... Would it be useful?

OpenStudy (thomas5267):

Any known relationship between the diameter of the two circles?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

the center of circle in Question 1) are (a+p)/2, 0 right??

OpenStudy (callisto):

i think it is (p/2, 0), not sure

OpenStudy (experimentx):

Oh it's p/2 ... I used strange distance formula ... and completely forgot one variable.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for b.) i.) |dw:1334405903224:dw| so for BE to be an altitude, we know it should pass through a vertex of the triangle and that it should be perpendicular to the base. So we let the CA be that base in this case. Now since BE passes already through a vertex of the triangle, we only need to prove that it is perpendicular to our base CA. ANd for that to happen we know that the angle CEB should be a right angle. now applying the thales theorem we know that triangle BCE will be a right triangle where CEB is the right angle, therefore, BE is perpendicular to CA. Since BE is perpendicular to CA and passes through a vertex of the triangle which is B, then it is an altitude of the triangle ABC

OpenStudy (callisto):

@anonymoustwo44 I think using ∠s in semi-circle is a pretty good way to prove it :)

OpenStudy (callisto):

But thanks for providing another solution :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Theorem: An angle inscribed in a Semi-circle is a right angle.

OpenStudy (callisto):

The only part left is (bii), any ideas?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Callisto, ah I didn't know we had that :)) I only knew thales theorem thanks for making me know this thing. Sorry for making the proof long, I was just afraid it wouldn't satisfy your level of rigourosity

OpenStudy (thomas5267):

Wait, notice that 17b(ii) says that JUSTIFY our answer not PROOF our answer. Then I say that \(CF>CG\) as \(CF^2+FB^2=CB^2>CA^2=CG^2+GA^2\) . Hehe!

OpenStudy (callisto):

@anonymoustwo44 The proof is good. And I've never thought of it. Thanks for bringing it up here!!! :)

OpenStudy (callisto):

@thomas5267 Hmmm.. good point. (for justify and prove) But... can you explain a little?! I know you're using Pyth. Thm.. and through comparing the hypotenuse, you want to get something. But I'm a little confused!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[CB^{2} > AC^{2}\] then \[CF > CG\] hmmm i don't think so hehe

OpenStudy (callisto):

That's because we have many combinations for the unknowns. So, it's difficult to justify it in that way

OpenStudy (thomas5267):

Just JUSTIFYING not proofing. Just playing with words...

OpenStudy (callisto):

Yup~ but you need to be reasonable in justifying sth, I think :S

OpenStudy (thomas5267):

But as the picture is not to scale, the diameter of both circle can be anything. What can you proof then?

OpenStudy (callisto):

lol, if I could do it now, I would close the question ...

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