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OpenStudy (anonymous):

@dpainc, Help here please?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if i can...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is this equation correct? y = 3tan(2x-60 ) - 5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Its y = 3tan(2x+60 ) - 5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the - 5 is correct, the -60 should be a + 60.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, I just corrected that:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, you got it before i answered.....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So does that answer the question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol, I know:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what am i thinking now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So that answers the question right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah, that's correct. you're good with this trig stuff... :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Its people in OS like you, who helped me alot. But there are soooo many things I sitll need practice with

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can you help me with one more?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup... sure... but i will be going back and forth with another post... hope you don't mind...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sure:). Here is the new question.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmmm... for that first one, i know it's translated 3 units up (if you solve for y)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the period for the first one is also shorter than the second one.... y=tanx has a period of pi(180 degrees)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and instead of increasing between vertical asymptotes, they will be decreasing... lemme check with wolf...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The -3 after y in the LHS troubles me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What happens there?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmmm... looks like the last staement i made was incorrect. they're both increasing.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can always make it "y = " by adding 3 to both sides in that first equation...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's how i know it is move 3 units up...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it becomes y = -tan( -2x + 180°)+3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Like that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh. lol this time you beat me first

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now, the reason i thought it was going to be decreasing was because of the -tan... when you take "-" of something, that just reflects the graph over the x axis...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

There is also a reflection in the y-axis right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

omg, you beat me again:) lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i'm getting faster.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol. You are!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, there is a reflection over the y-axis... and that came from the "-"x. if it had the same sign as the y=tan(x) then i would've been correct. i missed that one.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it's that -2 is the culprit.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok. so There are 5 transformations taking place, correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, I mean 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y = Asin(Bx + C) + D. are these the type of equations you are looking at now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lemme count...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the transformation steps are the a,b,c and d values. so 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup... i counted 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, so for a, there is a -, so there is a reflection in the yaxis

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yeah... each of those parameters does something(transformation) to the graph...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for b, it changes the periods of the graph

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no, a reflects over the x axis.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

b not only changes the period but if it is negative, it reflects it over the y-axis.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OHH! okok that makes sense. sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and finally, d vertical translation up by 3 units

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's what d does...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thats how I show the difference right>?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes.... the difference between y-3 = -tan(-2x + 180) and y = tanx.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, You are such a great teacher, I specifically look for you! Other people answer good answer but only they can understand it. I like that you explain it so that everybody understands:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks dpainc:), Btw, congrats in getting to level 61.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is the reason why it is a good idea to just study what A, B, C, and D does to a graph of sinx, cosx, tanx, etc. if you know these basic trig graphs, you'll get a good idea of a complicated looking equation's graph without a graphing calculator.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yw. remember what i said.... you will need this when you take calculus... you're well on your way grasshopper.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh @dpainc, Can you check this answer? 1. State domain, range, period, vertical asymptotes, zeros, symmetry and y-intercept of: y = -2tan(3x + 180°) + 3. Answer General form of the function: -2tan(3(x-(-pi/3)))+3 • Domain: {x | all real numbers except -30 degrees +60n} • Range: {y | y is an element or R} • Period: pi/b, where b = 3. Therefore, pi/3 • Vertical Asymptotes: -0.5 and 0.5. OR –pi/6 and pi/6. • Zeroes: x = …, -1, 0, 1, 2, … (rounding off the values) • Symmetry: Since tan(-x) = - tan(x) then tan (x) is an odd function and its graph is symmetric with respect the origin(0, 3). • Y-intercept: We set x = 0 so in this case -2tan(3(0-(-pi/3)))+3 = y = 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Vertical Asymptotes: -0.5 and 0.5. OR –pi/6 and pi/6. which is it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

They are the same thing arent they?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you calculate them, -0.5 = -pi/6 and 0.5 = pi/6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no they're not... but if you're approximating i guess that's true but there are infinitely many vertical asymptotes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry man, i gotta leave. i'll check on this later ok?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Aww man, but its almost done? I have to submit this in 10 minutes:(

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