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OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://sat.collegeboard.org/SAT/public/image/FPT_Math_Q85_122109.png In the figure above, point B lies on line AC. If x and y are integers, which of the following is a possible value of x?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A)30 B)35 C)40 D)50 E)55

OpenStudy (zepp):

Okay, there's 3 y angles, and x and y must be integers. Now, what's the degree for a horizontal line?

OpenStudy (zepp):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

It should add up to 180 degrees, right?

OpenStudy (zepp):

Yes, what equation would put x, y and 180 in relationship?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3y+x=180

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's all i have so far

OpenStudy (zepp):

Nice! Now A)30 B)35 C)40 D)50 E)55 Try to plug them in your equation, to see if y would be an integer

OpenStudy (zepp):

Let me give you an example E)55 3y+x=180 3y+55 = 180 125 = 3x x = 125/3 x = 41.6666666 So E) doesn't work.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well is it not possible for all of those to be true? Since the diagram is not drawn to scale.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How does E not work?

OpenStudy (zepp):

because x and y must be integers

OpenStudy (zepp):

and for some value of x, y cannot be an integer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh I see.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Whole numbers.

OpenStudy (zepp):

right :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's been a while since I've done this, taking the SAT tomorrow, forgetting those key words. Most of this stuff is more reading than actual math. So at this point it is just process of elimination, which is easy. I can take it from here, thanks for the help, you're awesome.

OpenStudy (zepp):

You are welcome ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

zepp's way isn't the only method to do it, and IMO is the least productive. Good you know how to do it though :)

OpenStudy (zepp):

@Retract, I know there another method, like looking for a whole number that's divisible by 3, and that could represent 3y as a whole, then to find x, simply substract this number from 180. but imo, there's quite a lot of possibilities it would be better to go with the trial and error method in this case. :)

OpenStudy (zepp):

lot of possibilities talking about x could be 171 and y is 3, you know.

OpenStudy (zepp):

since the figure isn't drawn to scale.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@zepp I always disagree with trial and error methods. There's a better method to do them almost all of the time.

OpenStudy (zepp):

but in this case, the trial and error method is the best way to go. Alright, want all the possibilites? let me list them And if it's not convincing enough, please tell me :) x = 177 y = 1 x = 174 y = 2 x = 171 y = 3 x = 168 y = 4 x = 165 y =5 x = 162 y = 6 x = 159 y = 7 x = 156 y = 8 x = 153 y = 9 x = 150 y = 10 x = 147 y = 11 x = 144 y = 12 x = 141 y = 13 x = 138 y = 14 x = 135 y = 15 x = 132 y = 16 x = 129 y = 17 x = 126 y = 18 x = 123 y = 19 x = 120 y = 20 x = 117 y = 21 x = 114 y = 22 x = 111 y = 23 x = 108 y = 24 x = 105 y = 25 x = 102 y = 26 x = 99 y = 27 x = 96 y = 28 x = 93 y = 29 x = 90 y = 30 x = 87 y = 31 x = 84 y = 32 x = 81 y = 33 x = 78 y = 34 x = 75 y = 35 x = 72 y = 36 x = 69 y = 37 x = 66 y = 38 x = 63 y = 39 x = 60 y = 40 x = 57 y = 41 x = 54 y = 42 x = 51 y = 43 x = 48 y = 44 x = 45 y = 45

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@zepp You pick the most inefficient way to do it to show me that trial and error works best? Okay. This discussion is over.

OpenStudy (zepp):

Fine then, if you say so.

OpenStudy (zepp):

I'm just shocked that you said that my way for this question is the least productive, that's all.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@zepp, you're in 10th grade, I'm studying calculus at a university level. I don't think there's any need for this.

OpenStudy (zepp):

So now you are judging me by the grade I am at?

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