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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Integral question (see inside)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[ \int\sqrt{\frac{x-1}{x+1}}\cdot\frac{1}{x^2}dx \]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

-1 + 2x - 2x^2 + ..... \(-1+2\sum_{n=1}^{inf}x^n\ \) ; :) ------------- 1+x ) -1+x (-1-x) ------- 2x (2x+2x^2) ----------- -2x^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Didn't really follow what you were doing there. For context, this problem is intended to be done with u-substitution, but is starred as being difficult.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

im just looking at it from a different perspective to see if it makes it simpler; it doesnt so far, but its good to stretch the grey matter some.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[\int \frac{1}{x^2}\sqrt{-1+2\sum_1(-1)^{n-1}x^n\ }\ dx\] \[\int \sqrt{-x^{-4}+2\sum_1(-1)^{n-1}x^{n-4}\ }\ dx\] lol, take u = the under stuff maybe? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Haha I don't even know what to begin to do with that :D I tried u=\(\sqrt{x+1}\), and I tried conjugating then doing \(u=\sqrt{x^2-1}\). The second one was totally a bust, the first one might have helped but I couldn't really tell haha.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

gotta love the "aw snap" page in the middle of a complicated write up :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

substitute \(u=\frac{1}{x}\) and then \(v=u+1\)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

try rewriteing that fractional part in a few different ways x+1/x-1 = 2x/(x+1) - 1 for instance

OpenStudy (anonymous):

With @ljiensen's strategy I get to \[\int\sqrt{\frac{2-v}{v}}\], if I did it right.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[u=\frac{2x}{x+1}-1\] \[\frac{du}{dx}=\frac{2}{(x+1)^2}\] \[dx=\frac{(x+1)^2}{2}du\] \[\sqrt{u}*\frac{(x+1)^2}{2x^2}\] \[\sqrt{u}*(\frac{x+1}{2x})^2\] \[\sqrt{u}*(\frac{1}{2}+\frac{1}{2x})^2\] \[\frac{u+1}{1-u}=x\] \[\sqrt{u}*(\frac{1}{2}+\frac{1-u}{2(u+1)})^2\] \[\sqrt{u}*(\frac{1}{u+1})^2\] \[(\frac{u}{u+1})^2\] maybe ... :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[\int u^2(u+1)^{-2}du=-u^2(u+1)^{-1}-2\int u(u+1)^{-1}du\]\[\hspace{3em}=-u^2(u+1)^{-1}-2(\ uln(u+1)-\int ln(u+1)du)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

use 1/x=t

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nono

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@vamgadu go vam

OpenStudy (anonymous):

multiply numerator and denominator with sqrt(1-t)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it makes life easier try it @nbouscal.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So we'll still have\[ \int\frac{\cos t\sqrt{1-t}}{(1-t)\sqrt{1+\sin^2t}}dt \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no dont use sint

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, okay. Yeah, I was already using 1/x from @ljensen suggestion earlier. The sin^2(t) part was what I was saying made it more complex lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

With just the 1/x substitution we have:\[ \int\sqrt{\frac{1-u}{1+u}}du \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we have \[\sqrt{1-t/1+t}\] multiply it with \[\sqrt{1-t}\] it becomes \[(1/\sqrt{1-t^{2}})-(t/\sqrt{1-t^{2}})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, yes, give me a moment I think I can work this out.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sin^{-1} t +.5 \sqrt{1-t^{2}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So after substitutions we are left with \(\arcsin\frac{1}{x}+\sqrt{1-(\frac{1}{x})^2}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Had lost a negative sign, actually \(-\arcsin\frac{1}{x}-\sqrt{1-(\frac{1}{x})^2}\), I think.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

WolframAlpha comes up with something much different, but it could be a different way of writing it. Always hard to tell. I don't see any reason for this not to be the right answer. Thanks for the help everyone :)

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