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OpenStudy (anonymous):

What did I do wrong here? I am getting ln|1-1|.... http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j409/QRAWarrior/MATA36-IMG007a.png http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j409/QRAWarrior/MATA36-IMG007b.png

sam (.sam.):

Its quite fade

OpenStudy (anonymous):

try zooming in

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Where are people getting this bicycle avatars from?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

these*

sam (.sam.):

google

sam (.sam.):

Is it \[\int\limits \left(\ln \left(x+\sqrt{x^2+1}\right)-10\right) \, dx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The integral is: The definite integral from 1 to \sqrt{2} of: ln[x + \sqrt{x^2-1}] dx

sam (.sam.):

did you try wolfram?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, and I do not want to. That just gives it away, or it does it in some other wacky method

sam (.sam.):

i think it gives the best solution , because other than integration by parts, there's no other way you could do this

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

\[\int\limits_{?}^{?}\ln (x+\sqrt{x^{2}-1}) dx\] Let x = sec (w) dx = sec(w)tan(w) dw \[\rightarrow \int\limits_{?}^{?} \ln(\sec w + \tan w)* (\sec w \tan w) dw\] Note: \[\int\limits_{?}^{?} \sec w = \ln(\sec w +\tan w)\] \[\frac{d}{dw} \sec w = \sec w \tan w\] use integration by parts: u = ln(sec(w) +tan(w)) ........... dv = sec(w) tan(w) du = sec(w) .......................... v = sec(w) \[\rightarrow \sec w \ln(\sec w +\tan w) -\int\limits_{?}^{?} \sec^{2} w \] \[\rightarrow \sec w \ln(\sec w +\tan w) - \tan w\] substituting back in for x \[\rightarrow x \ln(x+\sqrt{x^{2}-1}) - \sqrt{x^{2}-1}\] Now evaluate from 1 to sqrt2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok I see, so you are going to use trig sub for the argument. Thanks for the suggestion,

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

no problem..you don't have to, you can go straight to integration by parts as wolfram does but this way it may be easier if you comfortable with trig

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Did you use ( lnu )' ?

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

what are you referring to ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let u = x + sqrt ( x^2 + 1) du = dx/ sqrt ( x^2 +1)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dv = dx -> v = x

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

correct...yes except i did a trig substitution first

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Integral by part: = xln( x + sqrt ( x^2 +1) - sqrt ( x^2 -1)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm unfamiliar with plugging the values :/

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