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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let Y~T-student(v=18),Find a)P(Y<=0.15) and P(0.025

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'll be back for this :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is it about z score, area?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it follows t-student distribution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just this informations

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'll get you better help because I can't even trust myself with this field !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 Would you give us a hand, thanks!

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

are you familiar with student T distributions?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not much

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

alright one sec while I get a table

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

alright have a look at this table http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/gerstman/StatPrimer/t-table.pdf

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Have you see something like this before?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nope can you explain me the parameters?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

The parameter that will define which values we're working with is the degrees of freedom, which in this case is 18

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so you only focus on the values that are in the row that start with 18

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

now up at the top, where it says "cum. prob", "one tail" "two tail", do you see that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

alright, we'll only be focusing on the "one tail" row

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok but why?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I'm just now realizing that there are holes in this table, one sec

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

unfortunately, the only tables I've found rely on using them backwards, but the problem is that they don't even come close to the values being used here.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

are you able to use a calculator instead?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes,but could you explain how to use that table with other vaues,my cal do that. but i have to explain how i find the values in test

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have hp 50g

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Well to calculate P(Y<=0.15) for instance, you have to look for a 0.15 in the table or something close to it...but...you're confined to the 18th row. So you only have 4 or 5 shots to get it right. So you can see this is far from accurate. Example: If you wanted to calculate say P(Y > 1.067), then you would look for 1.067 which is the fourth element in the 18th row and you would look at the value in the "one tail" row right above 1.067 to see the value 0.15 So P(Y > 1.067) = 0.15 So if you're given values that land on or near the values in the table, then that's great. Otherwise, you're in a lot of trouble.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what means t.85?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that's the 85th percentile

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ie, P(Y < 1.067) = 0.85 or 85% of the distribution lies below t = 1.067

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and that z ?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so you have to explain how you got these t cdf values?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

as v --> infinity, the t-distribution approaches a normal distribution

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

which is N(0,1)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

basically, for really large degrees of freedom, you can use the standard normal distribution (instead of t-distributions)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so they're just showing how it's connected here

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok thanks a lot jim

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you're welcome

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