Heres the question
@Callisto @shivam_bhalla
M O2 Mass 2.0 (2.8-2.0=0.8) No. of mole 0.05 0.8/(16x2) =0.025 Mole ratio 2 1 So, M : O2 = 2:1 2M + O2 -> 2MO Right?
it is MO only
The oxide is MO, but since I wrote it in the equation form, I needed to balance it, so I wrote 2 before it, meaning that for 2 moles of M reacting with 1 mole O2, 2 moles of MO will be produced.
okay :)....can u do this method with the method (u told in the previous)
What do you mean?
xM+(y/2)O2---> MxOy
Sorry, I'm not the one who used that method :|
u know it anyway :)
Hmm... I don't know :| xM + (y/2) O2 -> MxOy no. of mole of O2 used = (2.8-2.0)/(16x2) = 0.025 So, y = 0.025 (2) = 0.05 no of mole of M used = 2.0/40 = 0.05 So, x = 0.05 and y = 0.05 So, x=y , x:y = 1:1 So, empirical formula for metal oxide is MO ._. I prefer the method of comparing the mole ratio to this...
"no. of mole of O2 used = (2.8-2.0)/(16x2) = 0.025 So, y = 0.025 (2) = 0.05" can u explain this part?
no. of mole = mass / molar mass => got it?
yeah i know thaht, the calculation part?
mass of O2 = 2.8-2.0 molar mass of O2 = 16.0x 2
just curious , can you tick all?
then the y part
That's the part I'm not quite sure ... I thought no. of mole of O2 = y/2 But later (just now) I realised that it's just the mole ratio...
hm...this method is not applicable then?
I don't know. I rarely use this method in doing such question. Usually, I use it when I do question related to combustion of hydrocarbons. I'm sorry!
hm okay...anyway thanks alot :D
Let's fetch help from @Kayne :) I hope she will notice this when she goes online
I get MO
Equation \[M+O_2->M_xO_y\] You know that all the mass of M reacted will be found in M_xO_y, So you just substract the 2.8g with 2g from MO and get the grams of oxygen, which is 0.8g of oxygen, Then, use empirical formula, M O mass(g) 2 0.8 moles(mol) 0.05 0.05 Ratio 1 1 MO
@Callisto ..he is using O---> not O2
Okay, I'll retake chemistry (if possible)
what do u mean?
I'll retake chemistry -> I'm really bad in chemistry that I think I need to study it again (but probably I end up doing the same question using the same method) (if possible) -> Only if I need to retake my secondary 6 and do the exam again, or in university, I choose chemistry-related subjects. (That's not very true, since I'll ask my teacher about this as soon as possible) Actually, I'm confused with his equation. Did he hide the '2'? Sorry I really haven't learnt doing that question in that way... *cooking again* brb
You have to use O only not O2 because you cant balance the equation
*I really dislike google :S* the balanced equation should be \[M + \frac{y}{2}O_2 -> M_xO_y\] in that case, y/2 is like ''being hidden'' as 2 in O2 is cancelled when multiplying (y/2), which gives y O So, in the calculation, 2 is not taken into account. I don't know if this explanation is correct (and probably not correct), but this is the only way I can persuade myself so far.
Sorry for confusing you all with this method.. :S xM+(y/2)O2--->MxOy x mol of M give 1 mole of MxOy (40x)g of M give (40x+16y) of MxOy 2g of M give [((40x+16y)/40x)x2.0]=2.8g of MxOy 40g of M =1 mole of M 2g of M=2/40 = 0.05 x= 0.05 Multiplying by 20, x=1 replacing x=1 in the equation: [((40x+16y)/40x)x2.0]=2.8g y=1 Hence, MO
wow ur back..good that u came before my exam..:D
@zaphod if my method is confusing.. maybe you should use that of @callisto... either way.. you'll get the answer..
http://www.twiddla.com/845236 can u come here{to the link}...can u explain that method clearly, coz i know the method is reliable..Please if u dont mind
actually, I'm kinda busy right now.. and I'll have to leave in a moment.. please use the two examples on which we've all worked on.. you'll get the pattern..
hm alright..thanks anyway:)
sorry:/.. good luck for your exams..;)
thanks:)
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