Find the Domain and Range of the following sets of ordered pair:
{(x,y) | y-2x=4}
{(x,y) | y=1-x/x-2}
{(x,y) | y=x^2-2}
{(x,y) | y=√ 4-x}
Any Ideas guys?
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
those are separate questions right?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Nope. They are on the same number.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Uhhh wait. Yeah they are. Just on the same number.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
It's like 1. a) b) etc.
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
ohhh
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
are you familiar with domain restrictions?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Uhmm nope. I think we did study that before. But it' been a year since then. But I do know that the Domain is the X and the Range is Y. It's just that the set are quite complicated with all the roots and division going on.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Some of them are even Quadratic Functions right?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Let me just search for that first. So what does that got to do with the Sets?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
domain restrictions happen ONLY when:
1) \(\frac{1}{f(x)}\) f(x) means an expression with x variables
2) \(\sqrt{f(x)}\) same meaning of f(x)
now look at a) is it in the form of either one of these?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes? So I have to rewrite it into slope form with is y=mx+b?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
look at a...is there any fraction?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
NOpe
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
is there any square root symbol?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Nope. So does that mean. That it doesn't have Domain Restriction?
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
yes..that means the domain for a is all real numbers
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
now...to find range you have to solve for x...what do you think you should do to isolate x?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
we're still talking about a) btw
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Uhhhm. Move Y to the right side and then Divide both side with 2?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
how will it look like? can you type it?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
x=4+y/2
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
now..is there a fraction?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
is there a y in the denominator?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
No
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
There's 2
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
therefore first restriction is crossed out...because there has to be a variable in the denominator
is there a square root symbol?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Nope
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
therefore the range for a is all real numbers
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
now...you may ask what if there is a restriction...
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yeah
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
let's take b for example
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
is there a fraction?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes there is, and there's also a variable
OpenStudy (anonymous):
in the denominator
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
therefore there is arestriction...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
to find this restriction equate the denominator to 0 (note this is only done for the first restriction)
what do you get when you equate the denominator to 0?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Uhmmm ..wait
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
sure
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Does Y become 0?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
LIke 0 = 1-x/x-2?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
dont mind anything else...just the denomiantor
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ohhh!
OpenStudy (anonymous):
It become the opposite
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
x=2, x=-1
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
just the \(\mathbf{denominator}\)
x - 2 = 0
there fore x = 2
that is the restriction
the domain is all real numbers except 2
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
got it?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yep same goes for the Range right?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
for range...you have to solve for x first before attempting to find restircitions
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
*domain sorry
OpenStudy (anonymous):
What happens with the Numerator? I don't touch it?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
but that is the domain
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
when finding for restrictions in restriction #1 you just look at the denominator
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So every time I have a equation such as that. I equate the denominator only to get the Domain?
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
yep
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ohhh . Okay now I understand. So how do I solve for the Range?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Since I already have X do I just substitute?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
that's usually the tricky part..start by cross multiplying
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
no you dont sub...2 is not a value of x...it's the opposite actually...it's the not value of x...x is true for all numberS EXCEPT 2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Okay. So what Do I cross multiply?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
y(x-2) = x - 1
got that?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ohhhhhhh. Okay . So I equate them?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
nope...distribute y
what do you get??
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ohh wait. so Multiply both side with the denominator to transfer it to the other side of the equation?
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
note this kind of manipulation..it is very common ;)
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
yep
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
that's what we call cross multiply
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Okay. So after cross multiplying>
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
distribute y into x - 2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
xy-2y=1-x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Then?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Solve for Y?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
1-x(-xy)/2 ?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
range means solving for x remembeR?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Wait, Isn't Range Y?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
so xy - 2y = 1 - x
put all x on one side..all non x to the other
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
range is the set of y yes...look at when we were solving for domain..it was y = f(x) <---F(x) is an expression of x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
OHh okay.
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
so put all x on one side?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yep it would look like. -1+y-2y= x-x ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
or is it 2x = 1-y+2y?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so Divide by 2 ir would be x= 1+y/2?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
it's actually neither
OpenStudy (anonymous):
what? Then what is it?
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
im gonna save you the solving
OpenStudy (anonymous):
That would really help.
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
put all the x on one side so it would just be
xy +x = 1 - 2y
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
got that?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
OHhhh. What I did i, that I removed X from XY! Silly me! So you can't do that right?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yep I got it
OpenStudy (anonymous):
But isn't 2y negative? So when you move it , it becomes positive right?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
now...you "remove" x by factoring it
x(y +1) = 1 - 2y
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
yeah my mistake
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
x(y+1) = 1 + 2y
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