definite integral question
\[\int\limits_{1}^{5} 1/(\sqrt{4x + 5}) dx\]
i did \[\int\limits_{1}^{5} (4x + 5)^ {-1/2} dx\] u = 4x + 5 du = 4dx 1/4du = dx \[1/4 \int\limits\limits_{1}^{5} (u)^ {-1/2} dx\]
change your limits...
1/4 2u^1/2 | 5 and 1
what you did is correct, but you might as well change the limits of integration at the same time so you don't have to substitute back
if you are going to use 1 and 5, you have to change \(u\) back to \(4x+5\)
1/4 [2((4 * 5) + 5) - 2((4 * 1) +5] 1/4 (2 * 25) - (2 * 9) 1/4(50 -18) 1/4 (32) = 8
if you want you can start with \(u=4x+5,u(1)=9,u(5)=49\) and then use \[\frac{1}{4}\int_9^{49}u^{-\frac{1}{2}}du\]
what dpalnc said
cough cough 4(5)+1 equals....
oops 4(5)+5 whatever
25 :P
yeah, 49, 25, whatever
49,21, or 25
some perfect square or another
safest one to go with is 25 though
72!
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hello myininaya doesn't anyone go out boozing on saturday night?
i'm sleepy. just got back from California.
I guess I'm confused when I switch the limits up or not, I guess i used u = 4x +5 so I had to change the limits to u. If I used x I would have to say u = 4x + 5 and x = u/4 -5?
you are a vacationing somebody aren't you?
right make sure you use the substitution on the limits too :)
no if you do not change the limits you replace \(u\) by \(4x+5\) at the end , then evaluate
so if I was using x = u/4 -5 the limits would still be 1-5 right?
oh.. hmm..
oh no hold on
x = (4u +5) = (4(4x + 5) +5) :P
EITHER change the limits at the beginning, or change back to \(4x+5\) and the end before you evaluate convince yourself that it doesn't matter and that you get the same answer in any case
you are making it much harder than it is want to start at the beginning?
Isn't that what I did though changing it back to 4x+5?
Ok lets do it without changing the limits .... and then after integrating put back in terms of x and then apply the limits
yeah your answer is right
1/4 [2((4 * 5) + 5) - 2((4 * 1) +5] 1/4 (2 * 25) - (2 * 9) 1/4(50 -18) 1/4 (32) = 8
Ok lets do this! :)
oh wait, it is not right anti derivative of \[\frac{1}{\sqrt{u}}\]is \[2\sqrt{u}\]
you need the square root sign there and you do not have it
\[1/4 * 2(u)^{1/2}\]
\[\frac{1}{4}\int\frac{du}{\sqrt{u}}=\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{u}\]
Ok so that was another thing I was curious about if I just do 2 * 1/4 ok.
yes they are constants
ok so it should be 1/2[ (4 * 5 + 5) - (4 + 1 + 5)] = 25 - 9 = 14 *1/2 = 7?
\[\int\limits_{1}^{5}\frac{1}{\sqrt{4x+5} } dx\] You did good to let u=4x+5 du=4 dx du/4=dx \[\int\limits_{C}^{}\frac{1}{\sqrt{u}} \frac{du}{4} \] \[\frac{1}{4}\int\limits_{C}^{} u^\frac{-1}{2} du\] So you integrate here Then use u=4x+5 then you can do \[F(x)|_1^5=F(5)-F(1)\] Where F is the antiderivative of \[\frac{1}{\sqrt{4x+5}}\]
Did I make that understandable?
Or should I put some more steps in?
I guess more steps, we are trying to now find "C" The Function is 4x+5 so it would be 25 and 9 but would that be the integral? What would we be finding? would it be x then @ x = u/4 -5?
and would 7 be the correct answer?
Yes you have the limits right
\[\frac{1}{4} \cdot \frac{u^\frac{1}{2}}{\frac{1}{2}}|_9^{25}\] \[\frac{1}{4} \cdot 2 u^\frac{1}{2}|_9^{25}=\frac{1}{2}u^\frac{1}{2}|_{9}^{25}\] \[\frac{1}{2}(25^\frac{1}{2}-9^\frac{1}{2})\] hmmm.... I'm getting something different .... Did I make a mistake?
You did do the antiderivative above I see...
And it seems the same as mine...
oh woops I for ot the ^1/2 :P
if you forgot that it would be 8 right ? lol
so it should be 5-4 = 1 * 1/2 = 0.5?
you mean .5*(5-3)
I suck :P.
no no you don't
so 1? :P I'm just not thinking, doing this too fast.
yea man that is right!
Ok sweetness. So I can still use the old method and just switch back to X's(I feel more comfortable that way than changing the limits and all that jazz) :) Onto the next question!
Alright...just keep practicing and check yourself.... It is the best way to learn these... I mean that is what worked for me... I did like easy, medium, and hard looking problems and I did them til I felt comfortable But make sure you are doing it the right way And the way to do that is to make sure you are getting the right answer each time Usually I do the odd ones and check myself with the back of the book And do some dirty looking even ones when I feel comfortable with the dirty looking odd ones
Good luck
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