sqrt(x+4)*sqrt(x+4) = x + 4 right?
\[\LARGE \implies (\sqrt{x + 4}) \times (\sqrt{x+4}) \implies \sqrt{(x+4)\times (x+4)}\] \[\LARGE\implies \sqrt{(x+4)^2} \implies x +4\]
better @Leaper ?
I don't understand why it got cutt off
do you get the process though?
Igba Do u have Twiddla
no..
\[\sqrt{(x+4)} \times \sqrt{(x+4)}=(x+4)^{\frac{1}{2}} \times (x+4)^{\frac{1}{2}}\]\[ = (x+4)^{\frac{1}{2}+\frac{1}{2}} = (x+4)^1 = x+4\]
\[ \sqrt{x + 4} \times \sqrt{x+4} =\sqrt{16+8 x+x^2}=\sqrt{(4+x)^2} = \pm(x+4) \]
Is sqrt(x^2 + 8x + 16) = x + 4
\[\sqrt{x+4} \cdot \sqrt{x+4}=(x+4)=x+4\] but \[\sqrt{(x+4)^2}=\pm (x+4)\]
or \[\huge \sqrt{(x+4)^2} \implies (x+4)^{\frac{2}{2}} = (x+4)^1 \implies x + 4\]
ffm i disagree with what yu have
\[ \sqrt{x + 4} \times \sqrt{x+4} =\sqrt{16+8 x+x^2}\]\[=\sqrt{(4+x)^2} = \pm(x+4) \]
\[\sqrt{x+4} \ge 0\] it cannot be negative
\[\sqrt{x+4} \cdot \sqrt{x+4} =(x+4)\]
but if we have \[\sqrt{(x+4)^2}=\pm (x+4)\]
\[\sqrt{x+4} \cdot \sqrt{x+4} \neq \pm (x+4) \]
I don't understand why sqrt(x^2 + 8x + 16) = x + 4
it just equals the positive output
Do you know how to factor x^2+8x+16?
Yes I do
what do you get
If it is \( y^2 = (x+4)^2\) , then \(y = \pm (x+4)\) but the sqrt there is already positive, why should we make it negative? If it is \(\pm \sqrt{(x+4)^2}\), then it is \(\pm (x+4)\) Hmm...
You get (x+4)^2
\[\sqrt{(x+4)^2}=|x+4|=\pm(x+4)\]
By definition of course :)
why is there a minus @myininaya ? doesnt the square root just cancel out thus canceling the \(\pm\) tOO?
I just don't understand this concept, I don't know how to view sqrt(x+2)*sqrt(x+2) = x+2
*totally new to me* Then FoolForMath is correct?!
\[\LARGE \sqrt a \times \sqrt a = a \longleftarrow \text{rule}\]
\[{\sqrt{x+4}*\sqrt{x+4}=\sqrt{(x+4})^2}\] \[\huge{x+4}\]
just accept that fact for now @Leaper no need to understand the philosophies as to how, why, etc ;)
i think \(\pm{x+4}\) is not possible
Ok if we have \[\sqrt{a} \sqrt{a}\] Then the answer is a If we have \[\sqrt{a^2}\] Then the answer is \[\sqrt{a^2}=|a|=\pm a\]
according to the rule as lgba said
of course assuming a>0 :)
for that first one i wrote
What if I have sqrt(10x+50y+20z+30a)*sqrt(10x+50y+20z+30a) does it equal 10x+50y+20z+30a
yep
@myininaya will it be \(\sqrt{a}^2 \) instead of\(\sqrt{a^2}\)
isnt \((\sqrt x)^2 = \sqrt{x^2}\) lol
which one are you talking about @mathslover
no @lgbasallote
Ok if we have a√a√ Then the answer is a If we have a2−−√ Then the answer is a2−−√=|a|=±a for this comment
Igba the rule makes sense when sqrt(3x)*sqrt(3x) = 3x because sqrt(3*3*x*x) = sqrt(9x^2) = 3x
yup..you see now? :)
I understand when there is one term not multiple terms under a radical
Whatever I wil accept the rule and try to figure it out later
haha that's right!! i accepted that rule and never complained =))))
which one is the problem what rule?
I'm trying to understand it on a deeper level
\[(\sqrt{a})^2=\sqrt{a} \cdot \sqrt{a}=a , a>0\] \[\sqrt{a^2}=|a|=\pm(a)\]
the rule that \[\sqrt a \sqrt a = a\] what astounds us though is this new revelation that \(\sqrt{a^2} = \pm a\)
I will tell you my perspective sqrt(a) = a^1/2, sqrt(a) = a^1/2 When you multiply exponentsn you add the exponents, 1/2 + 1/2 = 2/2 = 1 exponent a^1/1 = a right?
but when sqrt(x+5) = x^1/2 + 5^1/2
no no you can't do that leaper
sqrt (x+5) is NOT equal to x^1/2 + 5^1/2
Why
\[\sqrt{a+b}=\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}\] that is not correct
imagine this \[\sqrt{9+ 16}\] that is originally equal to \(\sqrt{25} = 5\) but if you try your method you come up with \[\large \sqrt{3^2 + 4^2} = \sqrt{3^2} + \sqrt{4^2} = 3 + 4 = 7\] and that is NOT equal to 5
you get why you cant do it?
let \(\sqrt{a+b}=x\) square both sides ..\(a+b=x^2\) according to you \(\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}=x\) again square both sides ... \(a+b+2\sqrt{ab}=x^2\) that is not equal to a+b=x^2 hence ur statement is proved as wrong
@lgbasallote has put constants there in the place of a and b that acted as a good example for you hope you now understood ?
@lgbasallote I will say more about that rule: \[\sqrt{x^2}=\pm (x)\] \[\sqrt{x^2}=-x, x<0\] \[\sqrt{x^2}=x , x>0\] \[\sqrt{x^2}=0, x=0\] So Lets test this out I said if x<0 then sqrt(x^2)=-x So what is a number less than 0? How about -4 Does that part of the rule hold? \[\sqrt{(-4)^2}=-(-4)\] yes :) We get a positive number because -(-4)=4 :)
Igba so all calculations inside a radical have to be done first before square rooting take action?
yup
yahooo !!!
i am very happy today .... my all LaTeX went crashed..
I think that's that info I was looking for
oh goodie :DDD i was prepared for more examples but if you get it then it's all yahoo
Igba so in sqrt(x+4), 4 has to be added to x before the sum of those two gets square rooted right?
yup...assuming you have a value of x of course
if there's no numerical value to x then you cant add it to 4
Here is another example showing the statement \[\sqrt{x+y}=\sqrt{x}+\sqrt{y}\] is false: \[\sqrt{2}=\sqrt{1+1} \neq \sqrt{1} + \sqrt{1}=1+1=2\]
Thank guys.
Igba regardless if there is a numerical value the x+4 inside sqrt has to be done before square rooting right
like hypothetically speaking
yepp
there is a also a gud question that why is \(\sqrt{-1}=i\) andnot \(\pm i\)
i think this is very true was also told by my maths teacher once but when i asked the teacher he went away .. as a function it is always + sqrt(25) is +5 but in an equation like x^2 = 5, you will have two solutions +sqrt(5) and - sqrt(5)
Okay finally I understand the problem, the correct way to solve this one is \[ \sqrt{x + 4} \times \sqrt{x+4} =\sqrt{16+8 x+x^2} \] \[ =\sqrt{(4+x)}^2 \color{Red}{\neq \sqrt{(4+x)^2} } = (x+4)\]
we should clear this doubt to the maths inventor ...
More importantly \[ \sqrt{x} \times \sqrt{x}=(\sqrt{x})^2\neq\sqrt{(x)^2} \forall x \in \mathbb{R}\] But then the OP didn't defined \(x\), we are all assuming it to be real.
And yes roting should be done afterwards.
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