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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find the exact value of cos(7pi/12) using half-angle identities. I'm still not sure how to solve this :( Any help is appreciated!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

see first of all think it dis way, ( i dont have calculator, but still i have to do d question, how can it b done)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well I know I'm supposed to pick "known" angles from the Unit Circle around where (7pi/12) would be or something like that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But I don't know how to do that without picking the wrong thing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep, now u know the values of cos of pi/6, pi/3,pi,4,pi/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How can you tell which one it is that you can use?

OpenStudy (foolaroundmath):

Hint: Do you know the value of cos(2*7pi/12) i.e. the value of cos(14pi/12). See if you can take it off from here

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sum of the denominators of which two angels( out of the four i typed) is equal to 7, nd there product is 12?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

pi/3 and pi/4? (:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u have got it :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats it, now apply the addition formula for cos

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You mean cos = theta/2 = +- square root 1 + cos theta / 2?

OpenStudy (foolaroundmath):

I thought the question meant using half angle formulae, hence the hint about cos(14pi/12). Otherwise pi/3 and pi/4 are perfectly fine :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh okay (:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Or do you mean cos (A + B) = cosAcosB - sinAsinB

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nah, i meant cos(a+b)= cosacosb-sinasinb

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm sorry, there's just so many formulas being tossed around today in my class lol.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh alrighty. What about sinA and sinB?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we know that values also, ( a gud saying, if u knw the one, u knw d rest, so if u knw the value of cosx, u can find the values of all other trignometric functions of x)

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

if you have to use half angle formullas only,,use these : 1)cos x = 2cos^2 (x/2) -1 or any other equivalent form. 2) your x here is 7pi/12 3)cos (7pi/6) = cos(pi + pi/6) = -(cos pi/6) try now..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@shubhamsrg would -(cos pi/6) be \[\sqrt{3} / 2\]

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

i am sorry above..x is 7pi/6 and not 7pi/12

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep its that only

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

it'd be -sqrt(3)/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and i owe u a big apology, i wasted a lot of ur time, i didnt read the question well, u asked to use half angle iddentities, nd i used additional iddentity, sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh please, don't be (: You helped me either way! I really appreciate it (:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If through this though, we got -sqrt3/2, do we plug that into cos theta / 2 = sqrt 1 + cos theta / 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\cos \theta = \pm \sqrt{1 + \cos \theta} / 2\]

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

didnt get your query.,,come again ..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ty:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do we continue solving? Because I don't see \[-\sqrt{3} / 2\] as an answer (:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And sure thing @dg123 (:

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

well i'll put an eqn,,you try afterwards : cos (7pi/6) = -cos(pi/6) = 2cos^2 (pi/12) -1 solve for cos(pi/12) from here..

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

hope its clear how i got the eqn.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, give me a second (:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah I'm stuck :/ Lol I'm sorry.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@FoolAroundMath we started with pi/3 and pi/4, may you carry off from there please? If not, I understand (: I just got a little lost here.

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

hmmm.. :| :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When I solved the equation you gave me @shubhamsrg I got -0.86

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

1 min..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alrighty

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

well i get cos(7pi/12) as 0.26 approx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmmm... I wonder where I messed up :p This is how I did it... hold on please

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

dont convert into fraction form,,leave it in rational form,,afterall you'll have to match with the options as well..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ooh, that's my problem than :/ I don't know how to do that without turning it into like a decimal and stuff

OpenStudy (foolaroundmath):

There are essentially two methods to solve this, both use the same trigonometric formula : cos(A+B) = cosAcosB - sinAsinB 1. take A = pi/4 and B = pi/3 and just plug in. (Assuming you know sin/cos of pi/4 and pi/3) 2. This uses half-angle formula or twice angle formula and I will demonstrate that they are essentially the same as the first equation mentioned. If B = A, then plugging it in the cos(A+B) formula, we get cos(A+A) = cosAcosA - sinAsinA \[\cos(2A) = \cos^{2}A - \sin^{2}A\] \[\cos(2A) = \cos^{2}A - (1-\cos^{2}A)\] \[(\cos^{2}\theta + \sin^{2}\theta = 1)\] Thus, \[\cos(2\theta) = 2\cos^{2}\theta - 1\] or \[\cos(\theta/2) = \pm \frac{\sqrt{1+\cos\theta}}{2}\] So, you need cos(7pi/12) Lets see if you know the value of cos(14pi/12).

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

alright,,leme try to put up let cos (pi/12)=x so you have -sqrt(3)/2 = 2x^2 -1 (1 - sqrt(3)/2 )/2 = x^2 x = sqrt (2- sqrt(3)) /2 so this is your ans note that we ignored the -ve sqrt here..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(14pi/12) umm... 7pi/6? <:)

OpenStudy (foolaroundmath):

cos(14pi/12) = cos(pi + pi/6) = -cos(pi/6) \[\cos\frac{14\pi}{12} = -\cos\frac{\pi}{6} = -\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\] So using the half-angle formula that we derived above from the parent formula cos(A+B) = cosAcosB - sinAsinB, we can plug it in to get the value of cos(7pi/12)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@shubhamsrg what did we ignore?

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You said at the end "note that we ignored the -ve sqrt here..."

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

i mean x will have 2 values according to our solution,,but we have to ignore the -ve solution since cos(7pi/12) must be positive

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oooh, okay. gotcha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@FoolAroundMath Thank you for the first part of the explanation, that cleared up a lot (: Your second part added onto what Shubhamsrg was saying (thank you by the way) and made it easier to understand (:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you @shubhamsrg I know I'm not easy to work with Lol I appreciate your time spent helping me

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

glad to help ^_^

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

@FoolAroundMath did a lot of hard work(writing)..he deserves more of the credit thus :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I wish I could give credit to everyone Lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Like the best answer thingy Lol

OpenStudy (foolaroundmath):

Nah, I have experience with Latex, so typing equations is pretty fast .. And I am bored at the moment, so why not xD. Glad I could help :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Lol! (:

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

and i'dl like to make a correction,,we dont have to ignore the -ve part..but we have to ignore the +ve root.. so ans is the -ve of what was earlier..

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

cos(7pi/12) has to be -ve,,sorry,,just noticed..hmm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, okay. So would it be (- sqrt. 2 - sqrt(3) all divided by 2)

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

yep..the very same :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, awesome (: How do you tell when to make it negative or positive?

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

7pi/12 = 105 degrees.. cos is -ve for that definitely

OpenStudy (foolaroundmath):

\[\cos\theta\] is positive in first and fourth quadrant and negative in others

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh okay, because it's in the 2nd quadrant?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah, right (:

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