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OpenStudy (anonymous):

completing the table

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the first column is n second column is : f^(n) x third column is: f^(n) 0 |dw:1341344386975:dw|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why isn't it working?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I tried to copy and paste a drawing I drew yesterday and it's not working

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok I'll just write it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

n f^(n) x f^(n) (0) 0 1/x 1 -1/x^2 2 1/x^3 3 -1/x^4 4 1/x^5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Taylor series for f(x) = 1/x and a=-3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wouldn't the third column be infinity?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for taylor series of a=-3 u need f^(n) (-3) not f^(n) (0)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here is a table for f(1+x)^-3 in my solution manual with those three column... it's gonna take me a min to write it. Let me know what you think about that table

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

n f^(n) x f^(n) (0) 0 (1+x)^-3 1 1 -3(1+x)^-4 -3 2 12(1+x)^-5 12 3 -60(1+x)^-6 -60 4 360(1+x)^-7 360

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't quite get the third column

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that taylor series for neighborhood of 0 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

To be quite honest I'm not quite sure...I'm kinda new to Taylor and Maclaurin series

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here is the formula that they wrote under it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[(1+x)^-3= f(0)+f'(0)x+\frac{f''(0)}{2!}x^2+\frac{f'''(0)}{3!}x^3........\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is this for Maclaurin

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats right its taylor series for neighborhood of 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_series go to Definition

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so we are taking infinitely many derivatives to make the function go to zero?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not Necessarily go to zero for example derivatives of 1/x never goes to zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Lets look at the approximation and convergence example of sin in wikipedia

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Pictured on the right is an accurate approximation of sin(x) around the point x = 0 What are we trying to approximate? What does the polynomial of degree 7 do for us?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait a second

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sinx approximately equals that list of polynomials?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh so if we continue on the right hand with that series we should get sinx?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry numerically --> yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and What does the polynomial of degree 7 do for us? sometimes working with polynomials is very easier than other functions like e^x or sin(x) or ln(1+x) ,etc so we approximate this functions by taylor series to make our calculations easier or even possible

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i see...so why are we singling out the polynomial of degree 7? wouldn't we need the whole series to find the approximate value of sinx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that was for example we use different degrees of polynomials Based on our need

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have a question about that figure in wiki of sinx and the 7th degree polynomial Are we trying to find a function that traces sinx around the point zero?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry if i'm asking the same question over and over

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so we are taking derivatives to get a line (function) to trace or original function?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i meant to say "the original function"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes thats right 'trace'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OMG it's finally coming together. so in the "List of Maclaurin series of some common functions" in wiki are we trying to find a function representative of image on the right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait a sec

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I didn't go to a different page...I just scrolled down and found an image on the right that read "The real part of the cosine function in the complex plane." The purple one

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well thats completely different because its on the complex plane!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

look at 4th and 5th figure at that page

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, ok so that's the approximation of the sin function...just out of curiousity, and briefly, how does that relate to the complex plane? or is that a completely different animal and outside of my calc II scope?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think CalcIII is when i will be introduced to complex planes...that figure just seemed interesting

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol ok :P back to the function f(x)= (1+x)^-3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

where are u confused about?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in the Taylor series for neighborhood of zero the solution become \[(1+x)^-3= f(0)+f'(0)x+\frac{f''(0)}{2!}x^2+\frac{f'''(0)}{3!}x^3........\] \[(1+x)^-3= 1-3x+\frac{4*3}{2!}x^2+\frac{5*4*3}{3!}x^3+........\] so we're plugging in the third column into the series?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-60=-5*4*3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now u tell me why the first table for function f=1/x can not be completed for f^n(0)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because that would be dividing by zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats right because 1/x is not differentiable in the neighborhood of 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u can complete the table for a=-3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how are we changing the graph? by allowing a=-3 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1%2Fx+graph I just need a visual :\

OpenStudy (anonymous):

by the way...you have been completely awesome and patient in helping me understand Taylor series, Can't thank you enought

OpenStudy (anonymous):

welcome

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