completing the table
the first column is n second column is : f^(n) x third column is: f^(n) 0 |dw:1341344386975:dw|
why isn't it working?
I tried to copy and paste a drawing I drew yesterday and it's not working
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ok I'll just write it
n f^(n) x f^(n) (0) 0 1/x 1 -1/x^2 2 1/x^3 3 -1/x^4 4 1/x^5
Taylor series for f(x) = 1/x and a=-3
wouldn't the third column be infinity?
for taylor series of a=-3 u need f^(n) (-3) not f^(n) (0)
here is a table for f(1+x)^-3 in my solution manual with those three column... it's gonna take me a min to write it. Let me know what you think about that table
ok
n f^(n) x f^(n) (0) 0 (1+x)^-3 1 1 -3(1+x)^-4 -3 2 12(1+x)^-5 12 3 -60(1+x)^-6 -60 4 360(1+x)^-7 360
I don't quite get the third column
is that taylor series for neighborhood of 0 ?
To be quite honest I'm not quite sure...I'm kinda new to Taylor and Maclaurin series
here is the formula that they wrote under it
\[(1+x)^-3= f(0)+f'(0)x+\frac{f''(0)}{2!}x^2+\frac{f'''(0)}{3!}x^3........\]
Is this for Maclaurin
thats right its taylor series for neighborhood of 0
ok so we are taking infinitely many derivatives to make the function go to zero?
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not Necessarily go to zero for example derivatives of 1/x never goes to zero
Lets look at the approximation and convergence example of sin in wikipedia
ok
Pictured on the right is an accurate approximation of sin(x) around the point x = 0 What are we trying to approximate? What does the polynomial of degree 7 do for us?
wait a second
sinx approximately equals that list of polynomials?
oh so if we continue on the right hand with that series we should get sinx?
sorry numerically --> yes
and What does the polynomial of degree 7 do for us? sometimes working with polynomials is very easier than other functions like e^x or sin(x) or ln(1+x) ,etc so we approximate this functions by taylor series to make our calculations easier or even possible
i see...so why are we singling out the polynomial of degree 7? wouldn't we need the whole series to find the approximate value of sinx
that was for example we use different degrees of polynomials Based on our need
I have a question about that figure in wiki of sinx and the 7th degree polynomial Are we trying to find a function that traces sinx around the point zero?
sorry if i'm asking the same question over and over
so we are taking derivatives to get a line (function) to trace or original function?
i meant to say "the original function"
yes thats right 'trace'
OMG it's finally coming together. so in the "List of Maclaurin series of some common functions" in wiki are we trying to find a function representative of image on the right?
wait a sec
I didn't go to a different page...I just scrolled down and found an image on the right that read "The real part of the cosine function in the complex plane." The purple one
well thats completely different because its on the complex plane!
look at 4th and 5th figure at that page
yes, ok so that's the approximation of the sin function...just out of curiousity, and briefly, how does that relate to the complex plane? or is that a completely different animal and outside of my calc II scope?
I think CalcIII is when i will be introduced to complex planes...that figure just seemed interesting
yes
lol ok :P back to the function f(x)= (1+x)^-3
ok
where are u confused about?
in the Taylor series for neighborhood of zero the solution become \[(1+x)^-3= f(0)+f'(0)x+\frac{f''(0)}{2!}x^2+\frac{f'''(0)}{3!}x^3........\] \[(1+x)^-3= 1-3x+\frac{4*3}{2!}x^2+\frac{5*4*3}{3!}x^3+........\] so we're plugging in the third column into the series?
-60=-5*4*3
thats right
now u tell me why the first table for function f=1/x can not be completed for f^n(0)?
because that would be dividing by zero
thats right because 1/x is not differentiable in the neighborhood of 0
u can complete the table for a=-3
how are we changing the graph? by allowing a=-3 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1%2Fx+graph I just need a visual :\
by the way...you have been completely awesome and patient in helping me understand Taylor series, Can't thank you enought
welcome
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