Question

Do you all agree?

That Energy = Is the ability to do work
Work = Is the transfer of energy from point A to B by using Force within a distance hence this model
W = F x D? And that without ANY force Work can not be transfered thus result of energy not being used/converted/stored... &

All the 9 kinds of force can preform work in a certain matter under a certain condition and force can be generated/created without work/energy in a system.

All that is my final conclusion about Energy, Work, Force how they all relate to each and they are all connected to one another.

Thanks!

Answer 1

hmm they all seem right to me so i agree :D

Answer 2

force can be generated/created without work/energy in a system ??

This looks little fishy..

I guess it violates Clausius statement..

Answer 3

I'm also having doubts about this statement:
" force can be generated/created without work/energy in a system"

Answer 4

Read the definitions of all the terms you have mentioned and think about 'cause and effect' relation. You will get the answer.

Answer 5

force may be applied on the system where overall work done is zero. ..
so i think its right. . .

Answer 6

dude, your statement itself is fishy {without any force work cannot be transfered} ,what do u mean transfer of work ,coz work itself is transfer of energy.
so be clear what you say......

Answer 7

taking to me???

Answer 8

not to you theyatin but to Mr.Hope99

Answer 9

@theyatin u're right. force can be applied in a system where overall work done is 0. But then what abt energy? i know, logically when i think, then it should be that if work done is 0 then transfer of energy is 0. but, i'm still confused. to apply force, isn't some kind of energy required?

Answer 10

listen inside a isolated system whole energy is conserved how ever force applied inside the system which is in between particles or objects is not zero. . .

Answer 11

@theyatin right...got it! thanks!
@Hope99: everything's right. except as @SATYA.A.TEJA pointed out, correct ur words here:
" And that without ANY force Work can not be transfered thus result of energy not being used/converted/stored... & "
Work cannot be tranferred, it is performed. other than that, all's good.

Answer 12

work is done but energy is transferred. . .

Answer 13

yea. i think he understood the concept, just got mixed up with words.

Answer 14

Sorry, let me "REWRITE THAT POINT"

"And that without ANY force applied Work can not be DONE thus energy can not be transfered/used/converted/stored..."

I do think that force can be applied without "Work". Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Answer 15

Hope that so far I made a valid point.

Answer 16

So, according to your definitions of energy and work, Einstein was wrong with his E=mc^2 and much before Einstein, Maxwell

Answer 17

no? What does that have to with anything...? Please read carefully.

Answer 18

@Hope99 : The revised statement looks fine.. It do follows Clausius statement ..

Answer 19

@Hope99 yes, that's right. take for instance, when u push a wall. u're applying force but since there is no displacement, no work is done.

Answer 20

Good, I have read carefully and still have the same question unless you specify that you are referring to mechanical work exclusively. Do not forget to put the adjective "mechanical" in your final conclusions

Answer 21

O'w ok. Thanks all :D