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OpenStudy (anonymous):

calc 3 help find curvature k of the curve y=e^(-x) at x=1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would I just find the first and 2nd derivative and do y''/(1+y^2)^3/2 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

isn't the tangent vector just the first derivative and the speed S just the magnitude of the first derivative?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

curvature is not the magnitude of the tangent vector divided by the speed

OpenStudy (anonymous):

anyone know the curvature formula when I'm only given an equation for y? I know how to do it if I'm given equations for both x and y, but not when it's only y

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mathteacher is right, that;s is ONE of the many curvature formulas, I'm looking at it in my notes right now

OpenStudy (mathteacher1729):

@myko you are correct -- I apologize. It is the mangnitude of the DERIVATIVE of the tangent vector ... divided by speed. :( My apologies everyone.

OpenStudy (mathteacher1729):

Here is where that definition is derived and explained: pg 4 PDF http://cfsv.synechism.org/c2/sec23.pdf

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would I be able to cross product the first and 2nd derivative, find the magnitude of the cross product, and then divide it by the magnitude of the first derivative cubed?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

||r'Xr''|| / ||r'||^3?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is one of the formulas for curvature I have in my notes

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\[\kappa = \frac{|y''|}{(1+y'^2)^{3/2}}\]

OpenStudy (zarkon):

how about that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I also have that one, would it matter which one I use?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

no...but since you are given y as a function of x I would think the above formula might be the nicest

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the |y"| is that the absolute value of y" or magnitude?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

abs

OpenStudy (zarkon):

y'' is just a function of x...not a vector valued function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah I asked about that formula in my first post on this question, but without the | | and no one brought it up or commented about it

OpenStudy (zarkon):

ah..ic

OpenStudy (zarkon):

it should have the abs

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah, I just didn't know how to do the | |, just found out how to do the bars now haha

OpenStudy (zarkon):

gotcha :)

OpenStudy (zarkon):

you also forgot a ' on the y in the denominator

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-e^(-x) squared is just e^-2x correct?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this thing is just filled with fractions within fractions -.-

OpenStudy (zarkon):

it shouldn't be too bad

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah, just gonna punch in the values into the calculator

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I like the what seems to be a Data picture

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