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OpenStudy (anonymous):

here is a tough one. My professor and I are arguing on the existence of a function, we know it exists, but are having a difficult time proving its existence and exampling it. the function has two requirements: lim(t->infinity)f(x)=c and lim(t->infinity)f'(x)≠0. preferably the function is a non trigonometric one, but other trancendentals are fine.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Hang on, lim as t approaches infinity? Is x to be treated as a constant, then?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

typo, x is t

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

What if the limit of the derivative was infinity (does not exist), does that qualify?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

possibly. we are looking for if the derivative does not exist (fluctuations), but perhaps infinity will work

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Try \[f(t) = (1 + \frac{1}{t})^{t}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm the defining equation of e... i would have never considered that, lemmy see

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Scratch that, it doesn't work :(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

? the derivative does exist lol

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I never said it didn't, but upon correcting some mistakes on my part, the limit does go to 0 as well, so...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahh kk, well im going to try to modify it and see what can work

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok yeah that doesnt work :/

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

How are you sure this function even exists?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its a well known mathematic issue in advanced diffy q problems. the function has been written and the most common case is a wiggle function but exampling a wiggle function that approaches a given value c is the difficulty

OpenStudy (fwizbang):

How about f(x)= (sin x^2)/x ? As x goes to infinity, f goes to zero, but the limit of f'(x) = 2 cos(x^2) - sin(x^2)/x^2 doesn't exist.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The derivative goes to 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Errrr 3, not 1

OpenStudy (fwizbang):

Actually, sin(x^2)/x^2 goes to zero as x goes to infinity, and cos(x^2) oscillates between +-1 so it has no limit. The limit as x goes to zero is one.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ohno waiti misread the derivative. Ill check it later,i have class rightnow

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