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OpenStudy (anonymous):

how to factor a equation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is your equation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x^2-6x-16

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(x+a)*(x+b)

hero (hero):

Hint: x^2-8x +2x - 16

OpenStudy (anonymous):

find an a and b so that when you expand (x+a)*(x+b) you get x^2-6x-16

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do you know which is a or b?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

pick numbers

hero (hero):

You have to split the middle term

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a and b mulstiply to -16 and add up to -6

hero (hero):

-6 = -8 + 2 -16 = -8*2 So: x^2-6x-16 x^2-8x +2x - 16 x(x-8)+2(x-8) (x-8)(x+2)

hero (hero):

Those are the proper steps to factor

hero (hero):

Unfortunately, a lot of students are taught to skip steps

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mmmm...... i get it now thankyou very much!:D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok here when you split -6x what do you have to split it to? ax+bx what are the conditions for picking a and b?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

*hero sorry

hero (hero):

@timo86m, I'm sure you already know what they are.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im just really confused right now xD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the way i learned it was from a equation ax+by=c

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no the way i was taught is (x+a)*(x+b) =x^2+x*b+a*x+a*b which to me says find a and b that multiply up to the constant and add up to the coefficient of the x term

OpenStudy (anonymous):

they way you put it @hero is that students skip a step what step did i skip? Splitting the coeffeicent of x? in order to do that i must have had forehand knowneldge that it would be 2 and -8

hero (hero):

You skipped the computational steps which directly show exactly the process of factoring from the trinomial to the product of two binomials.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol idk i think i did show that

hero (hero):

I just showed that you actually skipped steps. But it's okay, that's just how you were taught.

hero (hero):

@timo86m You start with \(ax^2 + bx + c\), so from that, explain how you end up with (\(x+a)(x+b)\).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

she had no coefficient in x^2 term so it safe to assume (x+a)(x+b)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i got it now:)

hero (hero):

Even so, you can assume a = 1, you still haven't explained anything a^2 + bx + c is the general polynomial for factoring trinomials

hero (hero):

Suppose the polynomial she gave was \(2x^2 + 11x + 9\). How would you explain it more generally since \(ax^2 + bx + c\) is the general polynomial term. I'm just curious what you will get when you factor in general.

hero (hero):

@timo86m

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