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OpenStudy (swissgirl):

Comment on the strength of the following argument and show that it is false by providing a counter example: "The reflexive property in the definition of an equivalence relation is redundant. Equivalence relations are symmetric so that if x ~ y, then y ~ x. Using the transitive property, we can deduce that x ~ x."

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

I think I have a counterexample. Let there be a set \(S=\{1,2,3\}\) and define a relation \(R\) on \(S\) such that \((2,3),(3,2)\in R\). Clearly, this is symmetric and transitive, but it is not reflexive because \((1,1)\notin R\).

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

@helder_edwin that's the symmetric property, and not reflexive.

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

reflexive means that it goes back to itself right?

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

Yes u r right. sorry. but in the example @KingGeorge gave you \[ \large R=\{(2,3),(3,2),(2,2),(3,3)\} \] is symetric but not reflexive

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

Reflexive is \((x,x)\in R\,\,\forall x\in S\) Symmetric is \((x,y)\in R \implies (y,x)\in R\) Transitive is \((x,y),(y,z)\in R\implies (x,z)\in R\)

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

so how do we see transitivity in ur example?

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

In my example I should have said let \(R\) be a symmetric and transitive relation such that \((2,3)\in R\). That would force \(R=\{(2,3),(3,3),(2,3),(3,2)\}\)

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

shld be (2,2) the third element in the set?

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

It should :/

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

okkkk gotcha. Thanks :)

OpenStudy (kinggeorge):

you're welcome.

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