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OpenStudy (anonymous):

There are three separate bundles of reading material comprising 4 comics, 2 novels and 3 magazines. They are placed together to form one pile. a) In how many ways can this be done if there are no restrictions on where individual items are to be placed? b) Determine the number of permutations if the order of the comic books in each bundle does not change.

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

as for a) it is just a simple factorial. if you combine them then there would be 4 + 2 + 3 = 10 total thingies. the number of ways you can rearrange this is therefore 10! as for b) it says permutation so you know you're going to use \\[nPr = \frac{n!}{r!}\] it says permutation of comic books. there are 4 comics and there are 10 total thingies. there fore the permutation will be \[10P4 = \frac{10!}{4!}\] got it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@lgbasallote Be careful..

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

b is wrong.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Seriously...

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

uhmm ookps yeah

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

got the formula wrong

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

\[nPr = \frac{n!}{(n-r)!}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes.......

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

sorry for the misinfo heh

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

\[10P4 = \frac{10!}{(10-4)!}\]

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

nice eye @waterineyes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ha ha ha..

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

do you get that @JayDS ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep but the answer for b in my textbook is 1728 for some reason?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you have answers with you??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but sometimes the answers are wrong in the textbook, I'm not too sure.

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

hmm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

don't worry, I'll ask my teacher later sometime, but thanks for the help.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But I think your textbook is right.. Because when we solved for wrong answers they we always say book can be wrong.. Ha ha ha..

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

so what's right @waterineyes eh?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol, i'm not sure...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am thinking lgba about the question..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is the answer for a part @JayDS

OpenStudy (anonymous):

10!=3628800

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

i doubt i did anything wrong :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry got to eat dinner, afk.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right.........

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Are you there @JayDS ???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am in doubt but I can show you how your book got 1728 as the answer for b part..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okok.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

See firstly tell me : Suppose, you have 3 things so In my how many you can arrange them ???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

*my will not come there..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes: So you can arrange them in 6 ways.. Right??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So write this 6 in your copy separately... So out of these three things: First is 2 novels Second is 4 comics and the third thing is 3 Magazines.. Right??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So now tell me in how many ways you can arrange 2 novels..?? In how many ways you will arrange 4 comics.?? In how many ways you will arrange 3 magazines?? Tell me separately the answers for all?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

novels=2!= 2ways comics=4!=24 ways magazines=3!=6 ways total of 32 ways.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I said you to use Counting Principle.. They will get multiply and not add..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2! x 4! x 3! =288 ways

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes now remember our first answer..???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That you have written separately what was that??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait igba's answer or...?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

My answer..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I told you to separately write in your copy...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes.. Now multiply that with 288 ways and check what you got..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1728

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is this the answer you textbook says??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

um, can u help me with some other questions?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

May be.. I told you I am not good at this... Can you ask your teacher something that I will say..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep, no problem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Question says that order of 4 comics does not change so there is no need to arrange 4 comics: So. 6*6*2*4 = 288 So I think answer should be this... So I am in doubt.. But according to your book's answer we have done it correctly..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Or most probably the answer will be: \[= \frac{1728}{24} = 72\] I said I am in doubt so be sure to get it confirmed from your teacher..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep.

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