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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Twelve balls are kept in 3 boxes. Find the probability that first box contains 3 balls.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@asnaseer

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

I would work out how many balls can be in the first box and then work out the probability of getting exactly 3 in the first box. e.g. the first box could contain 1 ball and the other two would then contain 11 between them. so I would create a table like this: first box other boxes ------- ---------- 1 11 2 10 ...

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

so what is the maximum number of balls you could have in the first box such that the other two boxes also contain at least one ball?

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

(one ball each that is)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what will be the sample space in this question??

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

it tells you that there are 12 balls all together

OpenStudy (anonymous):

12C3...for 3 boxes are also there...would it be the sample space??

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

I'm not sure what you are getting at Mitul?

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

if you just fill out that table I started above, then the answer should become obvious

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but then how will it go about...i mean for each box to have atleast one ball...box 1 should contain 10 balls... then what?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i want 3 balls in box 1

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

so now you know that box 1 can contain between 1 to 10 balls

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup... but what will be its mathematical interpretation?

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

now for each row of that table - you just need to calculate the number of combinations that the remaining balls can take into boxes 2 and 3. e.g. for the first row, we have 1 ball in box 1 and 11 in the other 2. So how many ways are there of distributing 11 balls between 2 boxes such that each one has at least one ball in it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

53 ways ..i guess

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

I get 10 ways

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

1 and 10 2 and 9 ... 10 and 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but it will be 53 ways since 11 balls can be kept in 2 boxes in 11 C 2 ways and minusing the event that each of them once has no ball in it, we get 53 ways..

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

there is probably a far simpler /mathematical/ way of doing this problem but I'm not familiar enough with this topic.

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

I can't see more than 10 ways - the ones I listed above.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okkk. if it is the way u r telling wat will the answer be??

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

I haven't worked through the whole problem. you need to calculate the combinations for each row, then see what proportion of the row with 3 balls in it is if the total to get the answer.

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

I think it will come out at something like 8/55

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not the answer...do u know any good book for probability?

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

sorry :( out of interest - what is the right answer?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

220*(2^9/3^21)

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

O.O

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

ok - I think I know some users who may be able to help here, I'll mention them so that they can take a look when they are online.

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

@KingGeorge @Zarkon @joemath314159 @JamesJ can you please assist this user with probability?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

kk thanks anyways...u have been of great help @asnaseer

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

yw :)

OpenStudy (kropot72):

@Mitul Are you saying the answer is \[220\times \frac{2^{9}}{3^{21}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup

OpenStudy (kropot72):

Have you calculated the value of 3^21?

OpenStudy (kropot72):

The sample space is 55 ways of distributing the balls between the 3 boxes with at least 1 ball in every box. 8 of the 55 ways have 3 balls in the first box. So the answer by @asnaseer 8/55 is correct,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

donno....maybe then my book will be wrong...thanks for the help @kropot72

OpenStudy (kropot72):

You're welcome :)

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

thanks for checking this @kropot72 - I was beginning to doubt my sanity :)

OpenStudy (kropot72):

@asnaseer Glad to be of help :)

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