Question

Hy biologists, I' have a small question, is Darwin theory 100% true, because I'm a programmer (computer science) and I don't know if its true or not, so please tell me a general idea, I'm learning those days about atheists and why they don't accept religions and one of many causes for that is Darwin theory ( I was a Muslim from Algeria before ok), thanks and excuse me for my bad English.

Answer 1

there are still holes in evolution, but it should not shatter any thing with religion. a lot of evidence to say it is 'true', but in sciences it is hard for anything to be 100%. people can have their opinions and support them with whatever they deem fit.

Answer 2

Evolution is real (we know species change/split, we've seen it), but I should note that the theories explaining it have changed a fair bit since Darwin's time. Darwin didn't know about DNA, for example. There've been a lot of developments in the past century or so, and evolutionary biologists are still hard at work trying to figure out exactly how it works.

Incidentally, I'm Christian. You don't need to be an atheist to learn how life evolved (and continues to evolve).

Answer 3

Thanks for replies, I only wanna say that all Muslims don't accept the theory (Darwin theory or modern theory like you've said with DNA) because it's a proof that Adam and Eve aren't the first humains, thanks again.

Answer 4

you never know, the first two homo-sapiens could have been adam and eve.

Answer 5

Yeah that's true, but Allah said in Quran that humains are designed by (him/her) and they are not a result of an evolution, Quran says that monkeys and humains and all other animals are made separately from each other (designed) from the first time. thanks

Answer 6

The story of Adam and Eve conveys theological truths (e.g. that God loves us, that we need each other, that obeying God is a really good idea, etc.), but it's not historical or scientific fact. It wasn't meant to be.

Answer 7

Excuse me Mr/Ms Calliope, if you have time right now to explain me: what do you mean by theological truths, are they separated from other scientific facts!

Answer 8

Incidentally, there are plenty of Muslims who believe in evolution. I know there are Muslim students in the evolution class that I'm taking right now at university.

Evolution is a fact, and both of our religions (Christianity and Islam) encourage us to seek the truth, right? Learning about evolution allows us to learn HOW God created the world and how He created humans -- not suddenly, not through any magic, but through natural phenomena like evolution that obey natural laws and allow mind-blowing complexity to develop on its own.

Answer 9

Theological truths have to do with our relationship to God. Scientific truths have to do with the physical world.

The Bible (and the Qu'ran, I assume) is intended to help us have a closer relationship with God. We're supposed to figure out the scientific bits on our own :) Why do you think God gave us these big brains and all this curiosity?

Answer 10

but who said that God gave us the brain !!?? I think the brain is a result of the evolution isn't it ? because monkeys aren't so clever like us!

Answer 11

look up animal behavior and learning, this is what i study and work with on a daily basis, animals are very much capable of high tier learning.

Answer 12

Monkeys are actually very clever, as are many other animals.

The fact that something's the result of evolution (and it IS a fact) doesn't mean it's not a gift from God. Do you think God can only give gifts by tossing something down from the heavens? Don't you think He's capable of giving us a gift by setting things in motion such that we would evolve as we have?

Answer 13

Yes but scientists must find solutions to problems not by making relation of anything with God, for example: British scientist Steven Hawkins is making a research about the universe and how it comes, but religions only saying "God does it" ! ! what a stupid answer, humains must find answers by thinking .

Answer 14

Hawking is an atheist/agnostic, and he has his own opinions about religion.

The fellow who developed the Big Bang theory, on the other hand, was a Jesuit priest.

"God did it" shouldn't be a valid answer for either religious or atheist scientists, because it doesn't explain anything.

I think God is behind evolution in some way or another, but since I don't know (and will probably never find out) what His role is, all I can do is try and figure out how He did it, i.e. how evolution works. And for that, it's much more practical to focus on the mechanisms behind evolution rather than the deity that may well have e.g. set the laws of physics such that it all happened as we observe.

Answer 15

Why we say "God is behind evolution" why don't we try to find the mechanisms behind evolution like you've said without thinking like: "that GOD must have a role here" !, thanks Calliope for those answers I appreciate it, if you have time to make a discussion I'm here, else you can go with best thanks to you.

Answer 16

You CAN study evolution without wondering whether God is behind it, but... as I said, I'm Christian, so when I look at the tremendous beauty and complexity in the universe, I see God's fingerprints all over it. That doesn't mean I think He created everything individually and all at once, but I do think He's behind the natural physical/chemical processes that, over billions of years, created us and everything else.

Answer 17

" I do think He's behind the natural physical/chemical processes that, over billions of years, created us and everything else." this can be explained by scientists using pure scientific facts without any need to religions. thanks

Answer 18

It can, but I still think God exists. No, I don't have any scientific proof, but for matters of the heart and/or soul, I don't need it. I just know that when I'm praying, or when I'm in church, I feel something, and it feels good. I was atheist for most of my life, and I'm much happier now as a Christian.

None of this impacts my ability to study biology, and the same goes for other religious people, be they Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, etc. A lot of scientists over the centuries have been religious, with a good number of them being priests or monks (e.g. the monk Gregor Mendel, the father of genetics, whose work helped to validate Darwin's theories), and the Islamic world was at the cutting edge of maths and science for a very long time as well.

Answer 19

For the first part, that's what you feed (happier and feed good) doen't make religions true (christianity or islam).
For the second part, when scientists believe in some religions doesn't confirm that it's true, maybe they are scientists in their fields but don't know anything about other fields of science. for this: "(e.g. the monk Gregor Mendel, the father of genetics, whose work helped to validate Darwin's theories)" this can maybe maybe confirm that christianity is true, but it makes Islam false as I mentioned before if you know a muslim who belive in evolution I'm ready to speak with him about this. thanks

Answer 20

There are Muslims studying biology at my university. I have never noticed them having any problems with any of the things we're studying. Most of the scientists that I know personally are Christian or atheist, but that's largely because of where I live and who I'm likely to meet (e.g. the scientists who go to my church). I know there are lots of scientists out there of all different faiths, though. Consider that many of the scientists in India are likely to be Hindu or Buddhist, and in the various Arab nations, I'd expect to find a lot of Muslim scientists. What someone does on Sunday (or Friday or Saturday or whatever day of the week worship services are held) does not stop him/her from being interested in science and pursuing a career in it. And yes, scientists do tend to specialise in one particular field to the exclusion of others, but you'll find religious scientists specialising in many different things.

I think Christianity is more true than Islam (I like Jesus, and I'm not such a big fan of Mohammed), but I could be wrong, and I'm willing to take that chance. I think God loves everyone, though, whether they're Christians, Muslims, atheists, or members of any other faith.

Answer 21

I wanna say that: if a person( who's Chtistian or Muslim or ...) is clever and smart doen't make his religion true, I think we must be all atheist untill we find a true scientific fact that makes god true, not making god true untill we find a scientific fact that's against it.

Answer 22

I was atheist for most of my life. I'd much rather have a relationship with God. It gives me much-needed comfort, and it's nice having someone to thank for the beauty that I see in the world around me. The fact that I can't scientifically prove that God exists doesn't matter to me. The most important things in life can rarely be scientifically proven. Think about it: can you prove that you love someone? Scientifically? How would you ever come up with a control for that experiment? How would you repeat it? And why on earth would you try in the first place? I love science (can't prove that either!), but the scientific method is not meant to be used for everything.

Answer 23

Ok thank you very much for this discussion you made me think again about my religion thanks. bye