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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
what is the corresponding linear DE to the particular solution \[y = 3x^2 - \cosh 2x\]
how to do this?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
take derivative and remember you have eliminate the constant here it is 3..
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
basically i have no idea what root corresponds to cosh or any hyperbolic function
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
why take the derivtive?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Don't you want to find DE??
OpenStudy (anonymous):
DE is differential equation..
You are given with solution..
And you have to find corresponding DE.
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OpenStudy (wasiqss):
why derivative O.o
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Do you know the form of DE ??
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
im given a particular solution...i need to find the DE
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
so wha?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
That is what I am saying..
Take the derivative first time..
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
so whenever im given a solution and i need a diff eq i take the derivative?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes.. you will..
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
hmm \[y' = 6x - 2\sin h 2x\]
wat now?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you have to eliminate all the constants..
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Or may be @UnkleRhaukus will help you better..
ha ha ha..
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
what do you mean??
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Call Uncle Rocks..
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
lol..you start it and then you let others finish :p that's not fair
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Sorry I don't want to give you false or wrong knowledge..
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Take derivative one more time:
\[y'' = 6 - 4\cosh(2x)\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
By taking derivative one more time 6 will be eliminated:
\[y'' = -8\sinh(2x)\]
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
...and i still dont know the roots that correspond to hyperbolic functions :(
OpenStudy (anonymous):
May Be this is your answer:
\[y'' + 8\sinh(2x) = 0\]
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
actually it's (D^4 - 4D^2); y=0
dunno what that means
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You are given with:
\(y = 3x^2 - \cosh 2x\)
Can you take it derivative four times ???
Do it hurry up..
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Wait let me try first..
OpenStudy (anonymous):
No I am not getting this actually..
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
lol =))) hard sint it
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Meaning?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
hard isnt it* lol
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
No it is not hard..
I studied 4 years before about DE..
My concepts gone far away from me..
Uncle will help you now..
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
i hope so
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[\cosh x=\frac{e^x+e^{-x}}{2}\]
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
oh yeahhh
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
so cosh2x is....?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Replace x with 2x..
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
mmhmm
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
from there i derive?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
break \(y_p \) up into \(y_{p_1}+y_{p_2}+y_{p_3}\)
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
that means what again?
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[y_p = Ax^2 - B\cosh 2x\]\[y_{p_1}=Ax^2\]\[y_{p_2}=Be^{x}\]\[y_{p_3}=Ce^{-x}\]
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
woah what? how?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
those constant are not ment to be the same
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
but why? how? wwhat?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
take the derivatives of y_p_1 and find A
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
why do you have Be^x and Ce^-x
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
they came form the cosh x
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
but it's cosh2x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
A B and C can take any values they are constants..
You have changed cosh(2x) into exponential terms..
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
well stick some 2's on
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
eh?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
in the exponents
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
Be^2x and Ce^-2x
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
what do you mean stick some 2's on?
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
oh
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
like that
.
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
so where did 1/2 go off to?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
it got absorbed in the constant like waterineyes was saying
OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
ohh..okay so what's next?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[y^\prime_{p_1}=\]
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
2A x